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PuffDriver

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No names or info, so I will post it.

1. All pilots on long-term sick leave (12 months or longer) were removed
from the pre-merger lists.

2. The 274 oldest Northwest pilots were removed from the pre-merger list.

3. The first 3045 positions on the ISSL were filled with the first 1961 Delta
pilots and 1084 Northwest pilots on the pre-merger lists in a ratio of
1961:1084 beginning with a Delta pilot.

4. The next 2433 positions on the ISSL were filled with the next 1313 Delta
pilots and 1120 Northwest pilots on the pre-merger lists in a ratio of
1313:1120 beginning with a Delta pilot.

5. The next 3932 positions on the ISSL were filled with the next 2580 Delta
pilots and 1352 Northwest pilots on the pre-merger lists in a ratio of
2580:1352 beginning with a Delta pilot.

6. The ISSL was completed with Delta and Northwest pilots remaining on the
pre-merger lists in a ratio of 1314:957 Delta to Northwest pilots beginning
with a Delta pilot until both pre-merger lists are exhausted subject to
paragraph 7, below.

7. All pilots with dates of hire after April 14, 2008, were placed at the bottom
of the ISSL in order of date of hire.

8. The Northwest pilots pulled in paragraph 2. were inserted directly above
the next junior Northwest pilot.
The Pilots of Northwest Airlines, Inc.
and The Pilots of Delta Air Lines, Inc.
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9. The pilots on long-term sick leave pulled in paragraph 1. were inserted
directly above the next junior pilot on his/her respective pre-merger list.





B. Conditions and Restrictions

1. These conditions and restrictions are an integral part of the ISSL and shall
remain in full force and effect until their expiration by their terms.

2. Pilots hired after April 14, 2008, shall be junior to all pilots on the ISSL
and shall be listed in order of date of hire consistent with the Joint
Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA.).

3. Neither the implementation of the ISSL nor the implementation or
expiration of a condition or restriction herein, in and of itself, shall cause
the displacement of any pilot from his or her then-current position
(including pilots who have been awarded positions but had not
commenced or completed training).

4. For the period of five (5) years beginning with the first bid period after the
issuance of the Single Operating Certificate (SOC), no pre-merger
Northwest pilot may be awarded or displaced to a vacancy on a B777
aircraft or category and no pre-merger Delta pilot may be awarded or
displaced to a B787 or B747 vacancy.

5. Should the merged company take delivery of any aircraft which is/are a
replacement of any aircraft covered by Paragraph 4., the captain positions
and, as applicable, the first officer positions on each such replacement
The Pilots of Northwest Airlines, Inc.
and The Pilots of Delta Air Lines, Inc.
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aircraft will be allocated in accordance with the Paragraph 4. restrictions
on the type it is replacing.

6. Paragraph 4. shall expire on the fifth (5th) anniversary of the SOC. Any
bid awards or displacements effective after that date will not be subject to
this restriction.

7. If there are insufficient bidders from one pre-merger pilot group for a
posted or contingent vacancy on one side of the fence during the period
covered by Paragraph 4., unfilled vacancies may be filled by pilots from the
other pre-merger airline.

8. A pilot awarded a position (via an AE, MD or VD) to a category as a result
of insufficient bidders will, for the purposes of processing future
displacements in accordance with Section 22 F. of the JCBA, be considered
as junior to all pilots from the pre-merger pilot group that was entitled to
that category.

9. From November 1, 2008, until the first bid period following issuance of
the SOC, any furloughs that are the result of the reduction in flying in the
pre-merger aircraft contained in each airline's pre-merger fleet shall be
borne by the pilots from that pre-merger airline regardless of their system
seniority; provided, however, that any furloughs resulting from such
reduction in B757 shall be shared on a 1:1 basis.

10. In accordance with ALPA Merger Policy and Paragraph 7. of the Process
Agreement, representatives of the pre-merger Delta MEC and pre-merger
Northwest MEC will adopt a simple process for resolving questions
concerning the interpretation or application of the ISSL by this Award.

11. In accordance with ALPA Merger Policy and Paragraphs 7. and 9. of the
Process Agreement, this Arbitration Board shall retain jurisdiction to
resolve any unresolved disputes between the pre-merger pilot groups as to
the terms of the Dispute Resolution Process and/or the interpretation or
application of this Award.
 

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What NWA DOH is at the same relative position as say a mid 1999 DAL hire?
 

aircowboy

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NWA 2000 hires are junior to Delta 2007 hires
But you suckers can't touch our 787s for like the next 6 and a half years :)
 

General Lee

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NWA 2000 hires are junior to Delta 2007 hires
But you suckers can't touch our 787s for like the next 6 and a half years :)

I can't wait to see the first one fly in 3 to 4 years.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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"8. A pilot awarded a position (via an AE, MD or VD) to a category as a result
of insufficient bidders will, for the purposes of processing future
displacements in accordance with Section 22 F. of the JCBA, be considered
as junior to all pilots from the pre-merger pilot group that was entitled to
that category
."

Can someone explain this to me? It sounds like a permanent fence. Let me see if I understand....if I bid south to atlanta lets say....I will always be junior to EVERY Delta pilot if displacements were to occur in my aircraft? Under normal circumstances regular seniority applies for bidding etc...but if displacements occur I'm the first kicked off of the airplane because I'm former NWA?

Am I reading this correctly?

fly2002
 

GogglesPisano

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Old list = 93%. New list = 92%.

I think the arbitrators did a fantastic job. :D
 

FmrFreightDog

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"8. A pilot awarded a position (via an AE, MD or VD) to a category as a result
of insufficient bidders will, for the purposes of processing future
displacements in accordance with Section 22 F. of the JCBA, be considered
as junior to all pilots from the pre-merger pilot group that was entitled to
that category
."

Can someone explain this to me? It sounds like a permanent fence. Let me see if I understand....if I bid south to atlanta lets say....I will always be junior to EVERY Delta pilot if displacements were to occur in my aircraft? Under normal circumstances regular seniority applies for bidding etc...but if displacements occur I'm the first kicked off of the airplane because I'm former NWA?

Am I reading this correctly?

fly2002

No. I think this only applies to the fenced equipment (777/747/787) for the duration of the fence (5 yrs). I could be wrong.
 

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"8. A pilot awarded a position (via an AE, MD or VD) to a category as a result
of insufficient bidders will, for the purposes of processing future
displacements in accordance with Section 22 F. of the JCBA, be considered
as junior to all pilots from the pre-merger pilot group that was entitled to
that category
."

Can someone explain this to me? It sounds like a permanent fence. Let me see if I understand....if I bid south to atlanta lets say....I will always be junior to EVERY Delta pilot if displacements were to occur in my aircraft? Under normal circumstances regular seniority applies for bidding etc...but if displacements occur I'm the first kicked off of the airplane because I'm former NWA?

Am I reading this correctly?

fly2002
No. I don't think you are understanding it correctly.
First, it only applies to the fenced airplanes (so 777 in your case as a former NW), and Second, it only applies if you got the position during the 5 year fence term due to insufficient bidders.

For example, if 3 years from now there are insufficient bidders(former DAL) on an AE for 777(highly unlikely wouldn't you think?) then you, as former NW, have a crack at it. So there you are, 3 years from now, as the only former NWA guy on the 777. Then, for some reason, DAL reduces the positions on the 777 and there are displacements. You are subject to being the first displaced, regardless of your seniority, because you got the position by crossing the fence due to insufficient bidders. Once the fence is over (5 years from SOC) displacements would be done in pure reverse seniority fashion.

Of course, anything is possible, but I think this language will be a paperwork exercise only. I can't imagine any of those "Super-Premium" positions going "insufficient bidders" during the next 5 years.
 
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