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Doesn't surprise me at all. Probably takes 'em about 3 seconds to figure out you're a PFT toolbag that denigrates all the true professionals in this industry. Have a nice day pumkin!

One guy didn't think I was dressed professionaly and the other two were pissed because I told them "I'll be in the back if you get scared and need some help gramps." It was worth getting kicked off just for the angry expression the old farts gave me. :nuts:
 
the post starter said his place doesn't have CASS.

Whoa, who he work for?
 
. . the other two were pissed because I told them "I'll be in the back if you get scared and need some help gramps." It was worth getting kicked off just for the angry expression the old farts gave me. :nuts:

Ha-ha . . . That made my morning!
 
Glad you had a good experience with them. Mine haven't been that way. I had three diferrent capts kick me off the jumpseat. Jerks.


One guy didn't think I was dressed professionaly and the other two were pissed because I told them "I'll be in the back if you get scared and need some help gramps." It was worth getting kicked off just for the angry expression the old farts gave me. :nuts:

I love reading your posts!!!!!! :laugh:
 
“There is a lot of animosity towards eagle guys “
Not true..
Years ago, my first time jump-seating was with a senior AA triple 7 crew. The Captain asked how my training was going and I told him I was struggling with the ATR fmc and that flying checks at night didn't compare to the two pilot 121 world.
I will never forget, when we got above 10 he spent the flight working with me on the fmc and how they used there checklists.
They really went out of there way for me, a lowly eagle new hire. I got to meet a couple of true aviators, it made an impression.
A few company's later, AA pilots still go out of there way to get me home.

You have two very diff things, you were on a turboprop and with a senior crew. I fly the CRJ and jumpseat on the 80 a lot.
 
Great Story

I was operating BUF-JFK and had a senior AA fA come up say hi and state "I'm your jumpseater" I very friendly stated with a smile on my face "you mean to say your introducing yourself and asking to ride on the jumpseat" She politely bowed her head and said "yes, exactly".
Later when they deplaned I approached her and sorta questioned her about how she asked, she told me that she thought we had an informal station agreement and that is why she assumed the seat was hers, like a buddy pass. (without the pass).

A little insecure, are we? Who really cares, anyways? She at least came up and said hi, prob had a seat in the back assigned, and then you had to go "put her in her place."

You must be a joy to fly with. Is the seatbelt sign switch also "your button"?
 
Well I will be the first to say I have had more not so good jumpseat rides on AA than good. The good thought are mostly Commutting ex-TWA guys. There is a lot of animosity towards eagle guys thought so that is what I chaulk it up to because I come down to the door introduce my self to the FA, wait for the pilots to finish checklists or what ever they are doing then ask for the jumpseat even thought I was already given it. I am not an a.. and I know the jumpseat is not a right.
Thanks to the guys appreciating the positive in their experiences. The fact that anybody has a job is a positive experience. Lest we forget there are many people on the street without a job, whether you have ever been without one or NOT in your career. Speaking as a cabin member and a current cockpit member for the "love of flying", I have/had commuted for 11 years and I made the choice, as you have. PLease get over whoever treats you like the bald spot on a tire or embrace the good experiences you have. Life sucks...get over it!!!
 
A little insecure, are we? Who really cares, anyways? She at least came up and said hi, prob had a seat in the back assigned, and then you had to go "put her in her place."

You must be a joy to fly with. Is the seatbelt sign switch also "your button"?

2 Shay!!!
 
I recently had the opportunity to non rev/jumpseat on American and I can echo the original post. Very professional and courteous crew, went out of their way to make me comfortable. They have a great product.
When I was a commuter in a previous life AA always got me to work and home,the crews front and back were always top notch,I will always be grateful.
 
I'm always thankful for my jumpseat privileges. I have met some awesome crews and made some life long friends jumpseating.

Not to berate AA, but I've never had luck jumpseating with them...even though we are in CASS. I have some very good friends that work there (some I've known since childhood) but they can't explain why dispatcher's can't jumpseat. *sighs*

Anyone have some inside info?
 
Our pleasure and glad to have you aboard!

I always go out of my way making you folks feel welcome, because that is the treatment I get on your airlines as well. And of course, the next question is always, "What's your screen name?" Hope to eventually meet some FIers.

P.s. Hey Starscream!
73
 
yeah they only take one jumpseater if you are in the system as a limited jumpseater...Thanks AA for leaving behind twice in last 3 months, with over 40 seats open. Was another Airtran guy there, can't take 2 airtran guys I guess.
 
AA management controls the jumpseat at AA. The union has been in a battle with them for years about this issue. Management sees the jumpseat as just another stick to beat the APA with. Believe me, if the APA controlled the jumpseat, things would be different.

To give you an example, the APA has been in contract talks for 2 years now and AA management has YET to put ANY kind of pay offer on the table. It's hard to have contract talks when management won't even talk. So, you can see, jumpseat issues are a ways away from being discussed.
 
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One guy didn't think I was dressed professionaly and the other two were pissed because I told them "I'll be in the back if you get scared and need some help gramps." It was worth getting kicked off just for the angry expression the old farts gave me. :nuts:

Instructordude for funniest poster on FI!
 
Has a crew ever been disciplined, done the carpet dance, or received a phone regarding a "crew delay"? When I was at Air Wiskey in PHL the gate agents used to chalk all delays up to crew delays and I don't know of one pilot who ever got a phone call.

Maybe it happens, but I can't think of any time at the three airlines I have flown for of a crew ever being questioned about a crew delay.
 
I jumpseated on several airlines for the majority of my career thus far (hopefully at some point I'll be able to get back to my career) and the vast majority of experiences have been very positive, regardless of airline. I have never been denied for the sake of being denied. Most Captains have been very friendly, and at worst they have been indifferent, no real jerks. Most gate agents have been respectful and friendly as I always try and be that way to them.

Having been a commuter for nearly 8 years I always shake my head when I hear the horror stories. Based on my experience (with several different stations as well) the bad experiences are very few and far between. The only conclusion I can draw from those who have regular horror stories about jumpseating is that it must be the way they interract with gate agents and flight crews. Treat people in a friendly and respectful manner, and most of the time they will treat you the same way, be rude and you'll be treated poorly.
 
I did that at ORD for 2 United Guys a few weeks ago. Both seemed genuinely thankful. We took a crew delay because one was standing at the gate and the agent refused to board the 2nd jumpseater and then lied about it. I said Ok thats fine but we'll refuse to leave until he gets on. Guess who won?

Thanks for acting like a Captain, there are way too many guys out there, at all carriers, who sit in the left seat but have no clue how to actually be a Captain. Every time a guy like you draws a line, it makes it a little easier for everyone. We have more than our fair share at CO but it looks like it is slowwwly starting to change.
 

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