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As part of our effort to investigate the possibility of assigned seating, Southwest will conduct a two-month test to analyze how various boarding methods will affect our aircraft turn time. During this time, Customers on select flights will be assigned a specific seat, and then will be asked to board the aircraft using a specific method. We will test a variety of methods to see the impact that each one has on our boarding times.
Our SAN Station was selected due to their wonderful Employees, strong Station Leadership, a variety of business and leisure travelers, isolated facility layout, and an appropriate mix of high-demand shorthaul, mediumhaul, and longhaul flights. This test in SAN is only focusing on the operational efficiency of the turn, and not the computer functions that go along with it, including the actual assigning of seats.

No decisions have been made to move forward with assigned seating, other than our desire to investigate the opportunity. (My emphasis, not SWA's) It is a matter of being prepared to offer our Customers the best value in the airline industry. Southwest Airlines will not be able to offer assigned seats anytime before 2008, and the decision will be made only after extensive testing and analysis.

Our Customers may have questions about the tests. Please continue to emphasize to them that this is simply an effort to maintain our operational efficiency and enhance the Customer experience.
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This will give SWA a good chance to test various methods of assigned seatings that will hopefully result in no changes to the turn times. That is the fly in the ointment that is always a concern when new procedures are discussed for boarding. Adding assigned seating in terms of revenue generation may become a no brainer if turn times are affected and with a projected increase in business pax who bypass SWA for the lack of assigned seating. With load factors lower than other carriers, SWA has the capacity to absorb these additional pax & the good thing is these are higher paying customers adding more to the bottom line than what the average ticket buyer adds.

While other carriers are charging additional money for items they have taken for granted in the past, in this case an enhancement (in the minds of some) will cost a current passenger $0 and it will meet the needs of many who wish to have this enhancement. From a marketing standpoint an excellent selling point but more importantly a revenue generator....kind of like adding winglets to save money, we add assigned seatings to increase revenue and keep fares low....we'll see how the test runs and where it leads from there.
 
Anyone know how to say, "You're welcome to move about the continent," in Spanish?
 
Why would SWA experiment with assigned seating when other airlines are considering going to unassigned seating?

I was listening to the news on the way home last night and I think they said NWA was considering unassigned seating.
 
If I slip Herb a bottle of Wild Turkey, you think he'll dump the assigned seating plan? As a frequent Southwest passsenger (the company buys the ticket), it is pretty nice when the very cool SWA gate agents allow me to pre-board when I'm in uniform or show the badge. The flight attendants also seem to like having a crewmember in the exit row. Switch to assigned seats and that all goes out the window and it's middle seat city like all the other carriers I have to ride (last minute tickets don'tya know).

Please Herb (or Gary, or Colleen), don't do it!
 
FN FAL said:
I was listening to the news on the way home last night and I think they said NWA was considering unassigned seating.

NWA is not going with unassigned seating. You heard them announcing random boarding order, but the seats are still assigned like usual. Just no more "Now boarding rows 11-13".
 
Its about revenue....if it generates (which some say it will) more revenue from business pax who want to know in advance their seating arrangement, the family of 4 that wishes to KNOW WITH NO DOUBT they can sit together, the average flyer who likes assigned seating and is hesistant to go open seating....these paxs now have the problem (in their mind, but not ours of course) of having a confirmed seat.

Businessmen who object to having to get to the gate early to wait in line for a preferred seat (boarding group A) now no longer have to worry....plus they pay much more for their tickets than other travelers.

Here's the question.....as somone who doesn't mind open seating are you in favor of keeping fares lower by having assigned seating or is open seating something you'll willing to keep and allow the fares to go up? Most folks are into the money & wish to save.....the tradition of open seating is great but when our load factor on average for the first 3 months was 69% & the top carriers were mid to upper 80's, the ability for SWA to have assigned seating & still have a middle seat is much higher on our flight than on a legacy flight. Now however our load factors hopefully will climb with more folks flying us.....an open seat to me is a missed opportunity & money that can never be regained once the plane pushes. More butts in the seats equal more profit sharing....if this gets them there, I'm all for it bruther!!!
 
mynameisjim said:
NWA is not going with unassigned seating. You heard them announcing random boarding order, but the seats are still assigned like usual. Just no more "Now boarding rows 11-13".

Jb studied this a while ago and made the same decision (a while ago). Not sure if I like it, but then I am not a customer and apparently it helps us make the turn thus make the money.
 
FN FAL said:
I was listening to the news on the way home last night and I think they said NWA was considering unassigned seating.
NWA is trying the "Board All at once" method...Well, F/c first then everyone goes....F/A's I talked to had mixed feelings....didnt seem to speed things up on my flight...Still pre-boarded 30 minutes before and left on-time.
 
Non-revs and deadheadders will be guaranfreakinteed a middle seat next to a couple of flabbalanchers now! I know why we are testing it, but dont ever look forward to deadheading or non revving ever again if it happens.
 
gutshotdraw said:
It is pretty nice when the very cool SWA gate agents allow me to pre-board when I'm in uniform or show the badge. The flight attendants also seem to like having a crewmember in the exit row.

Maybe the best seats should go to passengers that paid and waited in line.
 
Wiggums said:
Maybe the best seats should go to passengers that paid and waited in line.

Read the post again Sparky. I'm on a paid ticket. The company pays for it and usually more than Ma an Pa Kettle goin down to visit the young 'uns.
 
mhermann596 said:
Can you say international operations?

Forgive my ignorance, but whatdo assigned seats have to so with international operations?
 
Everybody knows you need assigned seating for international operations. Because...... actually, I have no idea why, just like you?

I'm sure they will all call the SWA/FO a bunch of names now. But the truth is the SWA/FO doesn't know everything.
 

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