Teamsters

[FlyBigE]

Not surprised. I got an email telling me I was delinquent in paying my strike assessment. I haven't been a teamster for over 9 months and wasn't when the strike was on. Plus I still get that stupid magazine as well. That thing went in the trash unread when I was a Teamster - I might give the ALPA one a 30 second look before it gets tossed. Wasted union dues for either one, IMO.

I feel your pain. I am still getting the same magazine from 2 different teamster unions that I belonged to. Plus I keep getting election ballots from both unions....Great way to spend the members money...

 

[filejw]

One of these days you guys are going to have to tell me why UPS freight would be flow buy anybody else except at Xmas maybe?

 

[kevdog]

One of these days you guys are going to have to tell me why UPS freight would be flow buy anybody else except at Xmas maybe?

They acquired the Menlo/Emery facility in Dayton, currently flown by contractors. UPS is planning on taking the flying over sometime soon this year.

 

[L-1011-500]

I know unions aren't perfect...they have their pros and cons...etc..........but is anyone surprised to hear the Teamsters did not know there were still guys on furlough at the airline I work for? How would you feel as a crewmember who paid dues that your union really does not have a clue what is going on?

That's why if you are going to be in a union as a pilot get into a pilots union. I was in teamsters at ATA then ALPA. Say what you want but there is no comparison between the two. They both gladly take your dues but when it comes to negotiating with the company ALPA had their act together way beyond what Teamsters ever did. I was at Amerijet and they brought in the Teamsters and I don't think there has been much forward progress. Plus I remember getting the teamster magazine back when we had them at ATA. I'd see all the articles about produce truckers and shopping cart welders and think what does this have to do with flying an airplane. Sorry to hear about them doing that. Sounds like a 36th St fiasco.

 

[penguin22]

That's why if you are going to be in a union as a pilot get into a pilots union. I was in teamsters at ATA then ALPA. Say what you want but there is no comparison between the two. They both gladly take your dues but when it comes to negotiating with the company ALPA had their act together way beyond what Teamsters ever did. I was at Amerijet and they brought in the Teamsters and I don't think there has been much forward progress. Plus I remember getting the teamster magazine back when we had them at ATA. I'd see all the articles about produce truckers and shopping cart welders and think what does this have to do with flying an airplane. Sorry to hear about them doing that. Sounds like a 36th St fiasco.

Couldn't disagree more. Teamsters have served us very well at ABX. I suspect alot has to do with the local, though. Our own Local has been very talented and effective over the years.

True, the magazine sux. But Local 1224 actually puts out its own, a pretty good one.

 

[ABXpert]

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.

 

[aviatrix767]

That's why if you are going to be in a union as a pilot get into a pilots union. I was in teamsters at ATA then ALPA. Say what you want but there is no comparison between the two. They both gladly take your dues but when it comes to negotiating with the company ALPA had their act together way beyond what Teamsters ever did. I was at Amerijet and they brought in the Teamsters and I don't think there has been much forward progress. Plus I remember getting the teamster magazine back when we had them at ATA. I'd see all the articles about produce truckers and shopping cart welders and think what does this have to do with flying an airplane. Sorry to hear about them doing that. Sounds like a 36th St fiasco.

Ha! Yeah, why don't you go ask some earlier Eagle pilots what THEY think about ALPA's negotiating skills?? I have a sneaking suspicion you'll get a different reaction.

 

[Clipperskip]

Rhoid...

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.

Rhoid, go play somewhere else and stop impersonating a GB pilot. Everybody on the cargo forum is familiar with your pathetic ramble. You throw a couple names around and act like to are the real deal airline pilot. Well you aren't and it shows!

 

[ABXpert]

I am a real airline pilot for ABX Air Inc (ICAO-GB).

 

[Sporto]

What's up

ABXPERT WROTE:

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.

Rhoid, go play somewhere else and stop impersonating a GB pilot. Everybody on the cargo forum is familiar with your pathetic ramble. You throw a couple names around and act like to are the real deal airline pilot. Well you aren't and it shows!

You here something that you don't like and fire accusations of coming from some rhoid dude. Unbelievable. Now what did abxpert say again that was so rhoidal?

 

[L-1011-500]

Ha! Yeah, why don't you go ask some earlier Eagle pilots what THEY think about ALPA's negotiating skills?? I have a sneaking suspicion you'll get a different reaction.

Well it's my opinion and I have been in both unions and I still feel teamsters is the one I would pick last. A union is only as good as it's members. I just am saying ALPA gave us better resources to work with. Do you really think Teamsters would have faired any better?

 

[Clipperskip]

Dear Sporto

ABXPERT WROTE:

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.



You here something that you don't like and fire accusations of coming from some rhoid dude. Unbelievable. Now what did abxpert say again that was so rhoidal?

It is not that ABXpert said anything that I disagreed with on THIS post...it is that he misrepresents who he really is.

 

[ABXbooger]

It is obvious he's just a baiter. Clever using one screen name to support the other. Post some facts, support them and maybe someone will beleive your who you say you are. Say what you want about this guy, the FI people can't seem to stop him.

 

[ABXpert]

How do we know that you are genuine?

 

[ABXpert]

It is obvious he's just a baiter. Clever using one screen name to support the other. Post some facts, support them and maybe someone will beleive your who you say you are. Say what you want about this guy, the FI people can't seem to stop him.

How's your new Jepp sized DC-9 operating manual, volumes 1 and 2 working out? Wish we could get Crawford to get us those on the DC-8.