Teamsters

[FlyBigE]

Ahh Teamsters, what can I say about them....NOTHING GOOD

 

[TWA]

Why hurt the customer during a strike by considering freight "Struck"? What did the customer do wrong?

 

[filejw]

The Teamsters just may have some experience in these matters.I'm sure most customers would have a clause in their contract that voids the contract if the cargo carrier does not perform.So no more freight to be struck.I'm sure the teamsters have seen this before on the ground and know what battles they can win.

 

[kevdog]

The Teamsters just may have some experience in these matters.I'm sure most customers would have a clause in their contract that voids the contract if the cargo carrier does not perform.So no more freight to be struck.I'm sure the teamsters have seen this before on the ground and know what battles they can win.

This is simple. For example, if UPS is on strike and someone else comes in to fly UPS freight, the freight is struck. If UPS freight is being contracted out and a contractor goes on strike, the freight is UPS freight and therefore not struck freight if another contractor flies it.

 

[AdlerDriver]

I know unions aren't perfect...they have their pros and cons...etc.......

...but is anyone surprised to hear the Teamsters did not know there were still guys on furlough at the airline I work for? How would you feel as a crewmember who paid dues that your union really does not have a clue what is going on?

Not surprised. I got an email telling me I was delinquent in paying my strike assessment. I haven't been a teamster for over 9 months and wasn't when the strike was on. Plus I still get that stupid magazine as well. That thing went in the trash unread when I was a Teamster - I might give the ALPA one a 30 second look before it gets tossed. Wasted union dues for either one, IMO.

 

[FlyBigE]

Not surprised. I got an email telling me I was delinquent in paying my strike assessment. I haven't been a teamster for over 9 months and wasn't when the strike was on. Plus I still get that stupid magazine as well. That thing went in the trash unread when I was a Teamster - I might give the ALPA one a 30 second look before it gets tossed. Wasted union dues for either one, IMO.

I feel your pain. I am still getting the same magazine from 2 different teamster unions that I belonged to. Plus I keep getting election ballots from both unions....Great way to spend the members money...

 

[filejw]

One of these days you guys are going to have to tell me why UPS freight would be flow buy anybody else except at Xmas maybe?

 

[kevdog]

One of these days you guys are going to have to tell me why UPS freight would be flow buy anybody else except at Xmas maybe?

They acquired the Menlo/Emery facility in Dayton, currently flown by contractors. UPS is planning on taking the flying over sometime soon this year.

 

[L-1011-500]

I know unions aren't perfect...they have their pros and cons...etc..........but is anyone surprised to hear the Teamsters did not know there were still guys on furlough at the airline I work for? How would you feel as a crewmember who paid dues that your union really does not have a clue what is going on?

That's why if you are going to be in a union as a pilot get into a pilots union. I was in teamsters at ATA then ALPA. Say what you want but there is no comparison between the two. They both gladly take your dues but when it comes to negotiating with the company ALPA had their act together way beyond what Teamsters ever did. I was at Amerijet and they brought in the Teamsters and I don't think there has been much forward progress. Plus I remember getting the teamster magazine back when we had them at ATA. I'd see all the articles about produce truckers and shopping cart welders and think what does this have to do with flying an airplane. Sorry to hear about them doing that. Sounds like a 36th St fiasco.

 

[penguin22]

That's why if you are going to be in a union as a pilot get into a pilots union. I was in teamsters at ATA then ALPA. Say what you want but there is no comparison between the two. They both gladly take your dues but when it comes to negotiating with the company ALPA had their act together way beyond what Teamsters ever did. I was at Amerijet and they brought in the Teamsters and I don't think there has been much forward progress. Plus I remember getting the teamster magazine back when we had them at ATA. I'd see all the articles about produce truckers and shopping cart welders and think what does this have to do with flying an airplane. Sorry to hear about them doing that. Sounds like a 36th St fiasco.

Couldn't disagree more. Teamsters have served us very well at ABX. I suspect alot has to do with the local, though. Our own Local has been very talented and effective over the years.

True, the magazine sux. But Local 1224 actually puts out its own, a pretty good one.