Teamsters

[ABXpert]

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.

 

[aviatrix767]

That's why if you are going to be in a union as a pilot get into a pilots union. I was in teamsters at ATA then ALPA. Say what you want but there is no comparison between the two. They both gladly take your dues but when it comes to negotiating with the company ALPA had their act together way beyond what Teamsters ever did. I was at Amerijet and they brought in the Teamsters and I don't think there has been much forward progress. Plus I remember getting the teamster magazine back when we had them at ATA. I'd see all the articles about produce truckers and shopping cart welders and think what does this have to do with flying an airplane. Sorry to hear about them doing that. Sounds like a 36th St fiasco.

Ha! Yeah, why don't you go ask some earlier Eagle pilots what THEY think about ALPA's negotiating skills?? I have a sneaking suspicion you'll get a different reaction.

 

[Clipperskip]

Rhoid...

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.

Rhoid, go play somewhere else and stop impersonating a GB pilot. Everybody on the cargo forum is familiar with your pathetic ramble. You throw a couple names around and act like to are the real deal airline pilot. Well you aren't and it shows!

 

[ABXpert]

I am a real airline pilot for ABX Air Inc (ICAO-GB).

 

[Sporto]

What's up

ABXPERT WROTE:

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.

Rhoid, go play somewhere else and stop impersonating a GB pilot. Everybody on the cargo forum is familiar with your pathetic ramble. You throw a couple names around and act like to are the real deal airline pilot. Well you aren't and it shows!

You here something that you don't like and fire accusations of coming from some rhoid dude. Unbelievable. Now what did abxpert say again that was so rhoidal?

 

[L-1011-500]

Ha! Yeah, why don't you go ask some earlier Eagle pilots what THEY think about ALPA's negotiating skills?? I have a sneaking suspicion you'll get a different reaction.

Well it's my opinion and I have been in both unions and I still feel teamsters is the one I would pick last. A union is only as good as it's members. I just am saying ALPA gave us better resources to work with. Do you really think Teamsters would have faired any better?

 

[Clipperskip]

Dear Sporto

ABXPERT WROTE:

I agree with penguin22. The most important thing is to have a good, strong E-board. We have had good leadership thru the years with the likes of Rick Z., Rob B. and now Dan G. The best thing that happened to us was when we got our own local (1224) back in the early-mid 90s. Prior to that we were in a local out of Dayton that had alot of other crafts in the local, not just pilots.



You here something that you don't like and fire accusations of coming from some rhoid dude. Unbelievable. Now what did abxpert say again that was so rhoidal?

It is not that ABXpert said anything that I disagreed with on THIS post...it is that he misrepresents who he really is.

 

[ABXbooger]

It is obvious he's just a baiter. Clever using one screen name to support the other. Post some facts, support them and maybe someone will beleive your who you say you are. Say what you want about this guy, the FI people can't seem to stop him.

 

[ABXpert]

How do we know that you are genuine?

 

[ABXpert]

It is obvious he's just a baiter. Clever using one screen name to support the other. Post some facts, support them and maybe someone will beleive your who you say you are. Say what you want about this guy, the FI people can't seem to stop him.

How's your new Jepp sized DC-9 operating manual, volumes 1 and 2 working out? Wish we could get Crawford to get us those on the DC-8.

 

[ABX9av8or]

As a person who has been ALPA and Teamsters, I have had much better representation from Teamsters. We have a very strong local, and with all of our control and assets at the local level, it makes it easy to deal with any problem. If you are not Delta United etc at ALPA, when a problem arises, you will not get the A, B, or C lawyer. If you are a smaller carrier at ALPA you will get the D expert or lawyer, been there and have a t-shirt. If we need an expert, we go out and hire the best.

As far as political power goes, in DC we have walked past ALPA representatives in meetings and offices because of how many votes the name Teamster represents. The folks in Washington only look at money or votes, Teamsters have millions of votes and ALPA has thousands.

Leadership is very important and not having to ask ALPA for every expert and dollar you need is the most important.

 

[erichartmann]

If ABXpert is rhoid in another guise he has done some homework. What he mentions by way of names and facts are accurate.

There are some at ABX who are talking about CAT, Cappy, ExpressOne etal. I have heard Astar pilots mention them as well, mostly after a recent briefing given them by Dasburg.

There are basically two schools of thought. Some feel it unlikely that DHL/DPWN will risk the potential for service disruption by intergrating another carrier into the system, particularly one which they believe is likely to have a lower dispatch reliablity rate and ontime performace than the exsisting carriers. I have no knowledge/evidence that the perceived lower dispatch reliability actually exists. This school of thought believes that on-time performace is paramount if DHL/DPWN wants to compete in the NA market and "grow" the business.

The other school of thought believes that cost alone is paramount, the arrival of CAT etal is inevidable, and will signal a percipitous increase in the race to the bottom that has already begun.

 

[30West]

It is obvious he's just a baiter.

But if he was REALLY good, would he be considered a "master........"??

 

[Clipperskip]

Rhoid...

How do we know that you are genuine?

I know LJ is the real deal because I fly with him on a regular basis. He is a great pilot and an even better person. That is why. You have to remember; ABX does not have a large pilot group. We have grown to know each other pretty well over the past few years. If you were a pilot at ABX you already would know that.

 

[IHaveAPension]

I'm a pilot at ABX too! I know Fathead, N1, Psycho, Butgrease (Gone), JetLag, Bubba and all the rest.

 

[flx757]

I'm a pilot at ABX too! I know Fathead, N1, Psycho, Butgrease (Gone), JetLag, Bubba and all the rest.

YOU are most definitely Rhoid, TheGuat, RJDC, LucyFurr, TheGuppyKiller, E170GuppyKiller, GuppyKiller, TheMissingLink, OUT, 410Dude, FreightNazi and many others (ABXpert, too).

 

[IHaveAPension]

Whoever you think I am, the fact is that I am a pilot for ABX Air.

 

[flx757]

I can find posts where you claim the fact is that you are a pilot for FedEx. You are just a flamebaiter and have no credibility at all on this forum. You are currently banned under at least a dozen usernames.

 

[IHaveAPension]

I actually fly for ABX Air.