TAM Crash In Sao Paulo

[B747FR8DAWG]

If the pilots lived, they'll be in prison for life. It's awful down there........ATC wise.

Maybe if they were expat American pilots flying for them................:erm:

 

[flatspin7]

The part that really blew my mind is that its a 6300 foot UNGROOVED runway, landing in heavy rain its probably like stopping on a skating rink. The fact that 2 other planes ran of the end of that runway the day before really makes it sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Looks like TAM has some experience wrecking airplanes out of this airport:

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9610/31/crash.update/index.html

 

[Draginass]

The Brazilian aviation system is both corrupt and incompetent. Not a good combination. Now they're still trying to hang the US crew involved in the midair collision for adhering to their ATC clearance.

 

[aa73]

Different video footage of the aircraft as it lands, from airport cameras:

http://mach.cdxi.googlepages.com/tam_congonhastv2_128.asf

 

[regionaltard]

Different video footage of the aircraft as it lands, from airport cameras:

http://mach.cdxi.googlepages.com/tam_congonhastv2_128.asf

Looks like they maxed out their bandwith for a while. Here's some spooky video.

 

[venr122]

For the airbus drivers out there, knowing we know almost nothing about this accident. Could the flight protection envelope thing (don't know what its called) have inhibited a max effort rejected landing? (over temping engines, pulling to the shaker etc) just curious.

Either way...on face value this sure seemed like an accident waiting to happen.

 

[StaySeated]

Once you lower the gear, most of the "protections" are inhibited. Upon touchdown, the bus acts like every other aircraft out there, with the exception of the trim-able horizontal stab, which resets itself to zero. The brakes are just like every other antiskid system. The auto brakes have a few oddities, but I would be very suprised if both guys weren't standing on the brakes manually. Reverse thrust is reverse thrust, nothing special. This could have been a 737 or a douglas or a fokker or a rj, standing water on an ungrooved surface is bad news.

 

[Say Again Over]

Thrust reverser 2 inop, why would they even attempt it?

 

[DO328-JET FO]

Short, wet runway with a thrust reverser inop, surely they have some sort of performance/landing limitation that would prevent them from even attempting to land in those conditions.