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Here's some valuable information that I rec'd from a very good friend
of mine. This is pertinent information that we all should be aware of.
Please take the time to read thanks.

Please send this to every Flight Attendant, Pilot, or anyone who works in the aviation industry.
I am NOT telling anyone how to vote. But I do think that everyone
should BE INFORMED, especially when it directly affects our livelihoods.


http://www.aflcio. org/issues/ politics/ mccain_aviation. cfm


JOHN MCCAIN THREATENS OUR JOBS, RIGHTS AND SAFETY

Wants to Privatize Essential Aviation Safety Jobs.. McCain voted to
privatize the air traffic control system and to allow the government
to transfer these functions to private companies, putting jobs and
safety at risk. (H.R. 2115, Vote 453, 11/17/03; S. 824, Vote 222, 6/12/03)

Mistakenly Believes That Contract Towers Are as Safe as FAA Towers.
McCain has said that "contract towers are just as safe—or in some
cases safer—as FAA staffed towers." He supports privatizing air
traffic control jobs and says they aren't "inherently government
workers." (Aviation Week, 9/8/03, 12/15/03)

Opposes Collective Bargaining Rights for Aviation Workers. McCain
repeatedly has tried to undermine aviation workers' collective
bargaining rights by supporting unfair baseball-style arbitration that
takes away our right to strike and vote on a final contract. (S. 1327,
8/2/01)

Will Turn Over Our Jobs to Foreign Airlines. McCain pushed to allow
foreign control of U.S. airlines and to allow foreign airlines to
operate on American air routes, threatening aviation jobs. This would
create a race to the bottom for wages, resulting in the outsourcing of
flight attendant jobs to the lowest foreign bidder. (S.Amdt. 3619 to
H.R. 4939, 4/26/06; ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, 2/00)

Helped Outsource Aviation Manufacturing Jobs. McCain voted to send
defense technology and aviation manufacturing jobs to Japan, without
guaranteeing that American companies would share in the work. (S.Amdt.
101 to S.J.Res. 113, Vote 67, 5/16/89; S.Amdt. 102, Vote 66, 5/16/89;
S.J.Res. 113, Vote 175, 9/14/89)

Supports Permanently Replacing Striking Workers. McCain voted twice
for a bill that allows companies to fire or replace lawfully striking
workers. (ALPA Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, 2/00; S. 55, Vote
121, 6/16/92; S. 55, Vote 189, 7/13/94)

Voted Against Rehiring Air Traffic Control Strikers. McCain voted in
1986 against rehiring 1,000 PATCO workers who were fired after going
on strike in 1981. The measure was intended to stem the air traffic
controller deficit and enhance air travel safety. (H.R. 5205, Vote
267, 7/30/86)

Blocked FedEx Workers from Forming a Union. McCain voted to block
FedEx workers from forming a union so that they could bargain for
better wages, health care and a voice on the job. (H.R. 3539, Vote
304, 10/3/96)

Opposes Protections for Overseas Flight Crews. McCain said he opposes
labor protections for airline flight crews working overseas. (ALPA
Presidential Survey, Air Line Pilot, 2/00)

Opposed Union Rights for Airport Screeners. McCain supported Bush's
declaration that union rights for airport screeners are a terrorism
risk and voted against giving them collective bargaining rights.
(S.Amdt. to S. 4, Vote 64, 3/7/07; American Prospect, "Screening on
the Cheap," 3/1/03)

Put Our Lives at Risk While Flying. McCain opposed meaningful aviation
security measures. He voted to gut flight attendant anti-terrorism
training requirements; fought funding for air marshals, TSA security
and explosion-detection systems; and supported $725 million in cuts to
aviation security programs. (H.R. 2115, Vote 453, 11/17/03; McCain
press release on S. 2537, 9/15/04; S.Con.Res. 83, Vote 59, 3/16/06)

Helped Send Union Aviation Manufacturing Jobs to France. McCain
strongly influenced the U.S. Air Force to award Airbus, rather than
Boeing, a $35 billion contract to build Air Force refueling tankers.
This deal would destroy 44,000 union jobs. (Lobbyist Disclosure
Database, accessed 3/11/08; Associated Press, 3/11/08; Time.com,
3/11/08; Mobile Register, 1/16/07; Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 3/7/08;
Washington Post, 6/20/08; GAO press release, 6/18/08)

Called Efforts to Address Flight Attendant Fatigue `Ridiculous. '
McCain called research studying the effects of flight attendant
fatigue "ridiculous" and listed it with research on blackbirds and
blueberries as government waste. As rest periods are reduced, chronic
fatigue is a growing problem, jeopardizing our ability to perform
safety duties. (McCain Statement on Lobbying and Ethics Reform Bill,
1/4/07)

Opposed Strict Oversight of Foreign Repair Stations. McCain opposed
routine FAA safety inspections of foreign repair stations that perform
maintenance on American commercial aircraft. These safeguards would
ensure aircraft safety, improve aviation security and protect American
jobs. (S.Amdt. 914 to S. 824, Vote 224, 6/12/03)

Left Aviation Workers Behind After 9/11. McCain voted against
unemployment, job-training and health benefits for thousands of
laid-off aviation workers after Sept. 11, 2001. (S.Amt. 1855 to S.
1447, Vote 293, 10/11/01)

Destroys Collective Bargaining Through Bankruptcy. McCain backed
Eastern Airlines' bankruptcy plan, which destroyed 43,000 jobs. He
supported letting airlines use bankruptcy to destroy collective
bargaining agreements and refused to support corporate bankruptcy law
reform to better protect our contracts and right to strike. (H..R.
1231, Vote 276, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231, Vote 273, 10/26/89; H.R. 1231,
Vote 222, 10/3/89; S. 2092, 2007)

Opposes Buy American Provisions That Protect Our Jobs. McCain voted to
waive Buy American laws for defense systems and to exempt six European
countries from Buy American requirements, placing our jobs in
jeopardy. He has said he "firmly objects" to these job-protecting
provisions and has even called them "ludicrous." (S. 2400, Vote 135,
6/22/04; S. 1050, Vote 191, 5/21/03; Congressional Record, 7/14/05,
10/7/05)

Says Pilots Are Greedy. McCain spoke out against pilots, claiming that
the reason they go on strike is to "satisfy their personal greed."
(Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, Hearing on Air
Traffic Control, 9/14/00)

Believes Pilots Are Careless. McCain accused airline pilots striking
for better wages and benefits of being thoughtless. McCain said, "A
large number of these pilots are former military men and women whose
code is supposed to be duty, honor and country. Now they take actions
without a thought for the Americans that rely upon them." (Senate
Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, Hearing on Air Traffic
Control, 9/14/00)
 
If you don't like either one of the 2 media chosen candidates, vote for someone else. It's not difficult. I've done it for years. If we all vote the way we want instead of the lesser of 2 evils, we will not have to suffer through either of them.
 
SwaFA, your taking qoutes out of context, I would expect nothing less from a liberal.

NOBAMABINBIDEN

McCain is not the best choice for this country, he is the only choice. The alternative will complete the path of the US going to socialism.
 
SwaFA, your taking qoutes out of context, I would expect nothing less from a liberal.


Do you care to put these in context?

ALPA Survey of Presidential Candidates2000
Q: Currently, U.S. law prohibits foreign interests from owning or controlling U.S. airlines. Do you believe this policy should be (a) relaxed, (b) maintained, (c) strengthened or (d) eliminated?

John McCain: I believe this policy should be relaxed. Consistent with the goals of airline deregulation, liberalized competition and entry in the market should enhance service and lower air fares. I have sponsored legislation in the past that would increase the permissible level of foreign investment from 25 to 49 percent. The legislation included certain protections, however. The Department of Transportation would approve such investments only after satisfying requirements about the reciprocity of the home country of the foreign investor, the promotion of competition, and national security concerns.

Q: Federal law allows companies to replace their employees who are on strike, seeking better working conditions and improved wages and benefits. If elected, would you support or oppose changing the law so that employees can strike without fear of permanently losing their jobs?

John McCain: I fully support the right of workers to express their grievances in the form of an orderly, legal strike. Even so, when employees choose to take such steps, the law has always balanced the rights of all concerned by providing employers certain rights. One of those has always been the right of employers to hire replacement workers.


Q: Foreign airlines are currently prohibited by U.S. law from carrying revenue passengers between U.S. cities, a practice known as cabotage. Do you believe this policy should be (a) relaxed, (b) maintained, (c) strengthened or (d) eliminated.

John McCain: I believe that the U.S. policy on cabotage should be relaxed. Foreign airlines could provide much needed competition on domestic airline routes, which would result in lower fares for the benefit of consumers. Increased operations of foreign airlines in the U.S. would also promote employment opportunities for U.S. citizens. Of course, the ability of foreign airlines to serve domestic U.S. routes should be contingent on the reciprocity of the home countries of the foreign airlines. It is worth noting that the impetus to relax the U.S. policy on cabotage has probably waned in recent years, since foreign carriers have been granted the ability to codeshare with U.S. carriers on domestic routes.

Q: International aviation agreements are not currently included under the jurisdiction of larger trade pacts such as the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) or the North American Free Trade Agreements (NAFTA). This limits the government’s ability to trade U.S. airlines’ international operational rights for non-airline goods and services that are covered by such trade agreements. Do you favor making it possible for international aviation agreements to be negotiated just like other GATT and NAFTA items?

John McCain: In the past, I have opposed measures to include air transportation service under the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. That said, I would consider and am open to any proposal to promote open skies agreements between the United States and foreign countries. Before Congress changes the way international aviation agreements are negotiated, however, it must examine whether any given proposal would achieve this goal. I would also agree that it is important to consider whether free trade in aviation would be overshadowed by non-airline goods and services, issues that may be deemed to be more important by our trade negotiators.
 
WOW!

Thanks! You totally swayed me! That's all it took!*

WOW WOW! And it's only your second post! You paid 10 bucks for this? You must be on the Obama campaign! Money well spent. I can't wait for Obama to spend us into utter oblivion starting in 2009! But hey, at least I'll be able to go on strike, since I'm too shikenchit to do it without government approval.

*(Well, until the next idiot posts something different anyway. I mean really, who are these people who haven't made up their minds yet?)
 
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WOW!

Thanks! You totally swayed me! That's all it took!*

WOW WOW! And it's only your second post! You paid 10 bucks for this? You must be on the Obama campaign! Money well spent. I can't wait for Obama to spend us into utter oblivion starting in 2009! But hey, at least I'll be able to go on strike, since I'm too shikenchit to do it without government approval.

*(Well, until the next idiot posts something different anyway. I mean really, who are these people who haven't made up their minds yet?)


Can't be any worse then the shaft we are receiving as of late with no lubrication.
here's another concept, if your company is providing good service you do not have to worry about the competition. peace!
 
SVT, last time I looked we'd already spent ourselves into oblivion, and looking to spend another trillion or so.

To whomever gets the job....best of luck. And good luck to us all......

WOW!

Thanks! You totally swayed me! That's all it took!*

WOW WOW! And it's only your second post! You paid 10 bucks for this? You must be on the Obama campaign! Money well spent. I can't wait for Obama to spend us into utter oblivion starting in 2009! But hey, at least I'll be able to go on strike, since I'm too shikenchit to do it without government approval.

*(Well, until the next idiot posts something different anyway. I mean really, who are these people who haven't made up their minds yet?)
 
I can't wait for Obama to spend us into utter oblivion starting in 2009!

News flash! Bush and the spend and borrow Republicans have already done that.

Remember the bad old days of decent pilot contracts and a federal government whose budget was in the black and was actually paying down the debt.
 

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