Tab

[eyelevelflyer]

Stay away, biggest scam out there.

 

[KC-10 Driver]

What are you talking about?

 

[SelectZoneFive]

Are you talking about TAB Express?

 

[bobbysamd]

TAB Express

We've had several discussions about TAB. Mostly anti, but a TAB instructor has stepped up to plate to present his side.

Please, tell us more.

 

[pilotyip]

real scam

Yea, if you count taking advanced airline style training that gets you an interview and a possible job, a scam, then it is a scam. Why is it a guy produces a quality program and makes money doing it is considered taking advantage of the "brother hood"? Do I see slams against Aero Services for selling 737 type ratings to guys who have a show balls chance in heck of getting an interview at SWA. Or a guy who charges $1500 for 4 hrs in a Senaca to get an ATP.

 

[eyelevelflyer]

Quality training? You have got to be kidding. An outfit that boasts a programs on which you get 200TT. Sounds good, until you break the time down. A 100hrs in the sim, which does not count for total time. And the 100hrs you get in the King Air, is 50 at the controls and 50 as a safety pilot. Yeah, legal, but I have many friends in the industry that will not even log safety time as PIC. And the bridge program does not exist, simple as that.

 

[pilotyip]

Quality

Total flight time has little to do with a pilots ability to fly. 100 hours in a sim is most likely of a higher quality of time than 100 hours in a C-172. The military turns 25 year olds loose in P-3's, C-130's, KC-135's etc. as aircraft commanders with less than 900 hours total flight time and they do a heck of a job. The same thing applies to the TAB program they give training to have you operate in a certain environment when you complete the program you are very good a commuter operations. That is why we found it was easier to teach a military helo pilot to fly jets than it was to train some 2000 hours general aviation pilots. Talk to any of the employers who have interviewed these guys or hired them, they are a cut above. Again total time has little to do with the ability to operate, it only something insurance companies use to rate pilots.

 

[chperplt]

And the bridge program does not exist, simple as that.

Their bridge program may not be putting people in the right seat of an RJ, but they are putting people in the right seat of a Beech 1900. Everyone has to start somewhere, and right seat of a 1900 is a good place to get that start.

 

[C601]

The military turns 25 year olds loose in P-3's, C-130's, KC-135's etc. as aircraft commanders with less than 900 hours total flight time and they do a heck of a job.

Pilotyip,

Your right they do a great job, but one factor your not looking into, is that these 25 yr olds are not paying the best part of $80,000K + interest and other "fees" that they have to worry about paying back for the rest of there lifes. Assuming u get the lowest interest rate out there your still looking paying back over $100,000 over 20+ years.

I mean lets be honest here, since there program started how many of there ex students are been paid to Fly with a commuter airline.

Any of there students care to comment ?

 

[Diesel]

Just an unsafe place..... Any way u look at it......

How do you log 50hrs as a safety pilot? SIC?