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[BRA]

I'm amazed this thread is going this way with that AAY data just sitting within that website link ripe for the beating…..

 

[scoreboardII]

How so?

 

[Ty Webb]

...and that's the one pay scale that AirTran had that was higher than SWA.

Whatever, buddy.

It's only about the money when there isn't much else.

I spent the last ten years in the left seat of a -700, enjoying the kind of trips I like- commutable, easy trips to long layovers in nice places. . . . and you spent the last ten years how, exactly?

:laugh:

 

[j41driver]

The company hired Randy Babbitt. I think swapa should hire Steve Kolski. The other trannies will know what I'm talking about.

That would be pretty funny.

 

[Toecutter]

Whatever, buddy.

It's only about the money when there isn't much else.

I spent the last ten years in the left seat of a -700, enjoying the kind of trips I like- commutable, easy trips to long layovers in nice places. . . . and you spent the last ten years how, exactly?

:laugh:

Wow, I'm sorry that bothers you. That was a shot aimed at BF, KG, SK, and company. They were making more that their SWA counterparts while asking the AT pilots to take a pay cut. Maybe you forgot about all that while building your beach condos.

 

[Ty Webb]

Wow, I'm sorry that bothers you. That was a shot aimed at BF, KG, SK, and company. They were making more that their SWA counterparts while asking the AT pilots to take a pay cut.

Sorry, I misread that as a dig at AAI pilots.

Maybe you forgot about all that while building your beach condos.

Nah, I didn't forget; those times were what motivated me to develop a life that didn't depend financially on the airline industry. . . . Maybe I should send them a "thank you".

:laugh:

 

[FlyinGuy]

CLE might be going away, but it's not gone yet. In fact, if you were informed you would know it was primarily express flying. Which is a reduction of outsourced flying, and for a moment had me thinking you SWA guys would appreciate the reduction in outsourced flying. Is that at all the case? Or are you just acting like a-holes?

I was just following your lead. You know, CAL crushing SWA's huge operation at IAH!!

 

[dicko]

Wow, I'm sorry that bothers you. That was a shot aimed at BF, KG, SK, and company. They were making more that their SWA counterparts while asking the AT pilots to take a pay cut. Maybe you forgot about all that while building your beach condos.

Meh. I thought it was pretty funny. What I also find amusing is this - the only difference between BJ and the other Bob, is their pay.

 

[Roomwithaview]

The point is obviously lost on you.

What point are you trying to make fckstik?

Are you upset cuz I never whored myself out by working for some broke d#ck operator like Mesa/freedom/gojet?

How many SCABs were on the list before you finally punched out?

Thank gawd you never had to torture yourselves with pulling gear pins after you crossed the picket line to get to work for a nickel ninety eight an hour.

 

[Clyde Frog]

You guys were running around ripping everyone's nuts off, now you're crying foul when someone might rip yours off.

Exactly. Boo F'n Hoo...

Everyone besides them had to know it was coming sooner or later....problem is now I'm tied to this sinking ship.

 

[HowardBorden]

No, I get that Red. My point is: what if going thru bk proves to be what legacy pilots use as a springboard to retiring multimillionaires? Having shed the debt and with what looks like insane profits ahead, some version of that could happen.

And I agree 401ks have pensions beat, for now. What if 401ks were abandoned by one of our competitors to undercut both of us? You going to be cheering them on? You guys were running around ripping everyone's nuts off, now you're crying foul when someone might rip yours off.

I don't think anyone is crying foul, however what an absolute tragedy has occurred. The legacies have made it acceptable if not required to screw their creditors and rape their employees in order move ahead.

Their is no conciliation prize for competing admirably and not using bankruptcy in order to hit the reset button reneging on promises made to employees and creditors.

What a sad state a of affairs when playing by the rules nets nothing but a higher cost structure than those that have used bankruptcy to force wage and benefit reductions not to mention the hardships placed on creditors who through no fault of their own are forced to accept pennies on the dollar for dollars lent with a fair expectation of repayment.

The really sad part is you seem to be celebrating the fact that legacies have used bankruptcy as a "springboard" for competing on, at one time, used to be a level playing field. I am quite sure you will be ecstatic when and if Southwest drags their employees and creditors through the proverbial mud in order to compete with the others that went down that road before them. But here's a little nugget for you, even after BK resets SWA still maintains a CASM advantage over every legacy while maintaining close to industry leading compensation packages for every employee group. If SWA is forced into bankruptcy proceedings they will again be poised to kick legacy ass but will have been forced to screw their employees to do so.

 

[HowardBorden]

Exactly. Boo F'n Hoo...

Everyone besides them had to know it was coming sooner or later....problem is now I'm tied to this sinking ship.

Please feel free to abandon ship before it goes down.

 

[27 driver]

What point are you trying to make fckstik?

Are you upset cuz I never whored myself out by working for some broke d#ck operator like Mesa/freedom/gojet?

How many SCABs were on the list before you finally punched out?

Thank gawd you never had to torture yourselves with pulling gear pins after you crossed the picket line to get to work for a nickel ninety eight an hour.

Are you really that big of a dousche bag? Don't forget LUV'S beginnings.

 

[RLAblows]

What point are you trying to make fckstik?

Are you upset cuz I never whored myself out by working for some broke d#ck operator like Mesa/freedom/gojet?

How many SCABs were on the list before you finally punched out?

Thank gawd you never had to torture yourselves with pulling gear pins after you crossed the picket line to get to work for a nickel ninety eight an hour.

I'm not upset about anything. Just found it entertaining to see a SWA pilot tell other pilots to "evolve or die." Coming from a company that is only playing catch up to the rest of the industry, because of the motto, "that's the way we have always done it." Hell, the 737 never evolved because Boeing's biggest customer wouldn't allow them to "evolve."

If Henry Ford had the same mentality we'd all be driving a model T. They worked just fine. Got you from point A to B.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Evolve or die

If you are a WN pilot, please attend a MTTF and share this with GK, 8000 pilots and 32000 other employees are counting on you.