SWAPA may vote again on age 60

[Mach 80]

Bill Nelson:

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On the SWAPA forum tons of folks are talking .......
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Far less than .05% of the pilot group is submitting anything on either of the SWA forums. It's always the same 30 or so guys.......over and over and over again. If they would spend as much time researching the stock market, they'd be rich and retired. For anyone to think anything on those forums is representative of the majority of what SWA pilots think is way off the mark. One of the non-SWAPA sanctioned SWA pilot forums used to always have a poll every time a union issue was put out for vote. It was so funny -- the guys would get all excited because the polls always showed things going the way the majority wanted who were participating on that forum. It was like when Lucy took the football away from Charlie Brown every time. Almost every time the actual vote came out opposite of what the forum poll had predicted. Polls are now seldom done there any more. These poor guys think everyone else is as jacked up as they are because they only interact with their buddies with the same mind set.

 

[Falcon Jet 1]

Bill Nelson:

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On the SWAPA forum tons of folks are talking .......
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Far less than .05% of the pilot group is submitting anything on either of the SWA forums. It's always the same 30 or so guys.......over and over and over again. If they would spend as much time researching the stock market, they'd be rich and retired. For anyone to think anything on those forums is representative of the majority of what SWA pilots think is way off the mark. One of the non-SWAPA sanctioned SWA pilot forums used to always have a poll every time a union issue was put out for vote. It was so funny -- the guys would get all excited because the polls always showed things going the way the majority wanted who were participating on that forum. It was like when Lucy took the football away from Charlie Brown every time. Almost every time the actual vote came out opposite of what the forum poll had predicted. Polls are now seldom done there any more. These poor guys think everyone else is as jacked up as they are because they only interact with their buddies with the same mind set.

I* guess they were the ones wrong and all jacked up about Hugo too.

 

[Dangerkitty]

ALPA is all peaches and cream now isn't it.

What Gup is insinuating is some of the crap thats been going on within the Union for about as long as there has been a Union. Its got kinda thick as of late. It certainly is an issue that the strong politically voiced few who are going at it. Its serious. But nothing that we're divided about to the point of arguing with each other. The age 60 thing isn't even that huge of an issue. We all have opinions but thats as far as it goes...for now.

So...no trouble in paradise. Sorry to disappoint you kitty.

Hey SWAdude, let me clue you in on something. I have never been nor am I currently a member of ALPA. Where you got that idea is beyond me.

 

[ultrarunner]

SWAPA can vote all it wants. It aint gonna change the law.

That's what I was thinking. This law is changed by a congressional vote. What do SWAPA pilots think their internal voting is doing? Influencing congress?

 

[TrumanSparks]

OK guys listen up. We are not voting to get the attention of anyone. We want to vote to see if the majority of the group wants SWAPA (Southwest Airlines Pilots union) to continue supporting the changing of the law. Awhile back (before I got here) it was decided that we would support changing the law. Times have changed and there are different priorities within our union.

To say that we aren't going to change things no matter what is a little naive. Guess what, laws get changed all the time regardless of what the "majority" wants. If you have a strong opinion about something one way or another then get involved to change it or have it stay as it is. But to say that something is safe because thats the way its been and it isn't gonna change, well denial ain't just a river in Egypt either.

 

[canyonblue]

We want to vote to see if the majority of the group wants SWAPA (Southwest Airlines Pilots union) to continue supporting the changing of the law.

A bigger issue for most is support, or SUPPORT. The amount of Union dues going to fund this has become a grind to many who may have felt neutral.

 

[Mach 80]

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I* guess they were the ones wrong and all jacked up about Hugo too.
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Occasionaly some things are obvious. But those few are still all jacked up liked junior high boys. About 20 guys on that forum guys keep repetitively gloating and going on and on about it like a buncha girls. Ask most guys on the line about it and you're met with a yawn. Most guys know that the key to their quality of career is primarily linked to the health and prosperity of their employer and that the union is secondary to that. I have a UAL pilot in my neighborhood who thought ALPA was the key and the end all and be all to his success and always disregarded any factor in regards to his employer. He got a big education in the last few years.

 

[SWAdude]

Hey SWAdude, let me clue you in on something. I have never been nor am I currently a member of ALPA. Where you got that idea is beyond me.

Never said you were.

 

[Dangerkitty]

Never said you were.

Then why the reference to ALPA when you were responding to my post?

 

[SWAdude]

Then why the reference to ALPA when you were responding to my post?

Forget it.