SWAPA "AIP reached with Company"

[N1atEcon]

Yes,sadly he was. He has 21 years to go and is oblivious to the ramifactions to his career if this passes.

 

[CaptWidgeon]

Yes,sadly he was. He has 21 years to go and is oblivious to the ramifactions to his career if this passes.

is this his first airline?
when i point out to gals/guys they need to be afraid of what's not in the language i get so many deer in the headlight looks. there is still the, "oh...they won't do that," mentality. i want to scream.

 

[Phlintstone]

You SWA pilots are a bunch of babies . Show me one time in the history of aviation ,where codeshare has hurt the mainline carrier or the pilots .

WOW. You are bit clueless...

Codeshare restricts growth. The company can just pair up with another carrier to fill its seats rather than buying equipment, hiring pilots and making more CA seats. Same can be said for contracting routes to RJs. The RJs should be bought by the mainline carrier and flown by mainline pilots.

In both cases the company benefits but it is to the detriment of the pilots and FAs and mechanics and rampers and CS folks. Once you move out of mommas house and when masturbation is no longer fun for you, do a little research on the history of the airline industry.

Phred

 

[outerlimits]

WOW. You are bit clueless...

Codeshare restricts growth. The company can just pair up with another carrier to fill its seats rather than buying equipment, hiring pilots and making more CA seats. Same can be said for contracting routes to RJs. The RJs should be bought by the mainline carrier and flown by mainline pilots.

In both cases the company benefits but it is to the detriment of the pilots and FAs and mechanics and rampers and CS folks. Once you move out of mommas house and when masturbation is no longer fun for you, do a little research on the history of the airline industry.

Phred

I think you are incorect. . When you guys vote in the codeshare , don't cry when I start flying what use to be yours .

 

[FurloughedAgain]

I think he was being sarcastic.

Most of the civilian guys at SW understand all too clearly the dangers of selling scope. A significant percentage of SW pilots post 9/11 came from the furlough lists of other airlines. It didn't take a rocket surgeon to what happened as the DC9, 737-200, MD80, Fokker 100 and others were parked after 9/11. Thousands upon thousands were furloughed - and then those furloughs extended by age 65... while at the same time an armada of RJs darkened the sky flown by kids for pennies on the dollar.

We are very clear on the dangers of domestic codeshare. It cost me a decade of career progression. My own bad choices added another decade of lost career progression.

 

[Phlintstone]

I think you are incorect. . When you guys vote in the codeshare , don't cry when I start flying what use to be yours .

...and you just proved my point. Is this you in the video....or your sister perhaps???:laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=nU5cMZymSr0

In case you need help with some comprehension, the bear does not understand english and will never understand...just like you will never understand...

Phred

 

[CODs4ever]

...and you just proved my point. Is this you in the video....or your sister perhaps???

too funny! by the way I loved that video...perfect example!

 

[outerlimits]

...and you just proved my point. Is this you in the video....or your sister perhaps???:laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=nU5cMZymSr0

In case you need help with some comprehension, the bear does not understand english and will never understand...just like you will never understand...

Phred

Speaking of sisters. I think yours gave me the clap . But then I am guessing you already know she has it



Cute YouTube video The girl is more like the Southwest pilots, and the bear is everybody flying the codeshare you guys have given up .

OL

 

[Phlintstone]

I don't have a sister so I guess you had sex with my brother. Laughing my arse off!!!!!

 

[outerlimits]

I don't have a sister so I guess you had sex with my brother. Laughing my arse off!!!!!

to-may-to, to-mah-to What's the difference

BTW. Your YouTube video was hilarious Sad part is.

SWAPA =. Girl

SWA =. Bear

 

[Ty Webb]

As usual, I like me some Man on Man talk.

:laugh:

 

[outerlimits]

:

As usual, I like me some Man on Man talk

Plaugh:

That's fine but please keep it to yourself

 

[Phlintstone]

BTW. Your YouTube video was hilarious Sad part is.

SWAPA =. Girl

SWA =. Bear

Actually it is more like the girl is the SWAPA president and the bear represents the pilots!

Phred

 

[Flopgut]

I think you are incorect. . When you guys vote in the codeshare , don't cry when I start flying what use to be yours .

IF they code share, it won't be you doing the flying.

 

[slaquer5]

IF they code share, it won't be you doing the flying.

Flop

The language is written very sloppy , the company could do as they please . SWAPA has not done very well in the grievance department We loose just about every time .


Also not sure what your point is, you sound like the company,telling us it's flying we will never do . I am surprised that anyone at a Legacy carrier would make the comment you just made .

 

[Flopgut]

Flop

The language is written very sloppy , the company could do as they please . SWAPA has not done very well in the grievance department We loose just about every time .


Also not sure what your point is, you sound like the company,telling us it's flying we will never do . I am surprised that anyone at a Legacy carrier would make the comment you just made .

They're not about to let that kid beat the sh!t out of New Mexico for you. SWA makes a lot of money doing that because yours is the opposite his product. You're in a difficult spot with your new international flying. Every new, exotic destination SWA wants has 1 or 2 airlines that want to come the other way. They have great cabin service, airbuses, and are cheaper than you. If you don't affiliate with a few in some way, then you're in everyone's crosshairs. Things SWA has relied on, like not building large enough terminals, cant hold them off forever.

I'd say what you're looking at certainly needs to be voted down. GK is not smart enough to know what to ask for on scope. You guys are. Write it for him and take a lot more than you give. Dont end up with some weird, hoky AerLingusy type thing that's failed. Do you have an alliance oversight committee? Or equivalent? Call ALPA and borrow one. Steer GK into a great deal (for you) with the very best airline the furthest South you can.

 

[Just thinking]

Now everyone is biting on the "transborder flying" thinking that there is no way anyone is going to fly into good ole USA with a Southwest sold ticket unless it is by a southwest pilot. This contract opens the door on the next merger/ acquisition that honors ALL of their code share agreements. Remember Air Wisconsin and the huge uproar? The sheeple pilots are allowing the boot licking know it alls make every excuse and apology for the company while throwing the pilots under the bus. One Captain has a son that flies for SWA and he is willing to tank his son's future and leave him in perpetual FO land. The control of the message is working and pilots are already planning on how to spend the pitiful bone us. Their shiny charts and graphs depicting the money you will make at the historical figure of 108 TFP is a joke with the concessions they are making.

 

[Just thinking]

Finally the president put out a letter and a pitiful one it is. Total disregard for what the elected representatives expected. More trivial salesmanship. Obviously he's trying to move into the general office. Disgusting!

 

[tankerhead]

Finally the president put out a letter and a pitiful one it is. Total disregard for what the elected representatives expected. More trivial salesmanship. Obviously he's trying to move into the general office. Disgusting!

Yeah somebody(gk) bought that dude. He's no better than a Honolulu hooker.

 

[slaquer5]

They're not about to let that kid beat the sh!t out of New Mexico for you. SWA makes a lot of money doing that because yours is the opposite his product. You're in a difficult spot with your new international flying. Every new, exotic destination SWA wants has 1 or 2 airlines that want to come the other way. They have great cabin service, airbuses, and are cheaper than you. If you don't affiliate with a few in some way, then you're in everyone's crosshairs. Things SWA has relied on, like not building large enough terminals, cant hold them off forever.

I'd say what you're looking at certainly needs to be voted down. GK is not smart enough to know what to ask for on scope. You guys are. Write it for him and take a lot more than you give. Dont end up with some weird, hoky AerLingusy type thing that's failed. Do you have an alliance oversight committee? Or equivalent? Call ALPA and borrow one. Steer GK into a great deal (for you) with the very best airline the furthest South you can.

So you are talking like the company does . You think there is good codeshare and bad codeshare .

I think you just made the Christmas card list of every airline CEO