swa type

[toa2mdt]

I'm going to HPA in April for my 737 type. I have had my e-app at SWA since the beginning. Does anyone know how long after getting the type an interview will come? That's if they like what they see?

 

[DH2WN]

I'm going to HPA in April for my 737 type. I have had my e-app at SWA since the beginning. Does anyone know how long after getting the type an interview will come? That's if they like what they see?

I got my interview 2 years after the type.

 

[Challenger]

After HPA I got my interview 2 weeks later and was hired 8 weeks after that. Best of luck.

 

[toa2mdt]

cool,

thanks guys. where is the best recent gouge for the updated interviews? when were you guys hired?

 

[MSquared]

toa,

As you can see from the first two responses, it really varies. I got my call one month after completing my type at HPA and applying. Guys in my same HPA class got called less than that (they had there app in already cuz they had an ATP), and guys that were 2-3 months down the road.

best of luck.

 

[TV9Driver]

7+ months and still waiting. All of the military guys in my HPA class got interviews right away, but us civilians have had no such luck. It's all a crap shoot.

 

[Jetjockey]

I don't think anyone is getting calls for interviews these days. The word is (from the people department) that there are no interviews scheduled for the months of March, or April. Of course that was the word a few weeks ago.

The rumor I keep hearing is no interviews until at least September. I really hope that turns out to be false.

 

[toa2mdt]

ok, so what about jet pic time? i'm at flt options....and everyone is typed and we swap seats as pf and pm. when i am flying pilot, that is still considered sic time. do you guys agree or would this be pic time. according to what SWA would like to see.

 

[Challenger]

Did you sign for the airplane?

 

[DH2WN]

ok, so what about jet pic time? i'm at flt options....and everyone is typed and we swap seats as pf and pm. when i am flying pilot, that is still considered sic time. do you guys agree or would this be pic time. according to what SWA would like to see.

Go to the online application and it says in the directions what they consider to be PIC. Sounds like in your case only when you are in the left seat and PF. Unless you have signed for the aircraft and are sole responsible.

 

[saabcaptain]

I got called 6 days after I got the type. Now at SWA.

That said I think the secret is having what SWA wants PLUS the type. For me it was a 2500 turbine PIC and being a check airman that did the trick, plus the type. If I had low turbine PIC or wasn't a check airman I suspect I would also have been called but later.

Good luck.

 

[ATRCAPT]

paper app 6/02

typed 1/03

e-app 1/04

interview call......

 

[satpak77]

After HPA I got my interview 2 weeks later and was hired 8 weeks after that. Best of luck.

When did SWA pick you up? How long have you been there now?

I heard they cancelled hiring for remainder of the year

 

[FreightNazi]

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[SWAdude]

I heard they cancelled hiring for remainder of the year

Not true.

Hiring 300+ for the remainder of the year.

 

[Snoopy58]

ok, so what about jet pic time? i'm at flt options....and everyone is typed and we swap seats as pf and pm. when i am flying pilot, that is still considered sic time. do you guys agree or would this be pic time. according to what SWA would like to see.

Not familiar with all the specifics at flt options, but yours sounds like the exact case that the SWA footnote is written for. Here's the key question: will there be some point in the future at which time you'll be "in charge" of the whole trip, and will feel right logging ALL of the time (pf and pm both) as PIC? If so, then you should wait until then to log your time as PIC for SWA purposes. However, if your legs in the left seat now are every bit as much "in charge" as you'll ever be, then I think you're okay to call that time PIC on the SWA app.

Since a big part of the challenge & responsability of being The Boss comes between flights, I'm not entirely clear how things work when the answer to "who's in charge?" switches each leg, but I don't doubt that it can be made to work. If there is a group of "junior captains" and a group of "senior captains," and the junior captains don't fly together but always with a senior captain (who is The Boss for the trip, who always talks with dispatch, makes the tough decisions in-flight and during flight planning, etc), then I'd lean toward saying that the Senior Captain on the trip should log the whole thing (pf and pm) as PIC, while the junior captain is really more of an SIC. As an interviewer once explained to me, if a logbook looks like

PIC leg / SIC leg / PIC leg / SIC leg / PIC leg / SIC leg / PIC leg ...

and then at some point starts to look like

PIC leg / PIC leg / PIC leg / PIC leg / PIC leg / PIC leg / PIC leg / ...

then they tend to figure that only the latter stuff is "real" PIC -- thus my warning that if at some point you're going to become a "senior captain" who logs every leg as PIC, then you're probably better off not counting the alternate legs prior to that point as PIC for SWA purposes. On the other hand, if there never will be such a point and pretty much nobody at flight options logs their pm legs as PIC (instructors during initial checkout excepted), then you're doing what they want counting you pf legs as PIC.

Clearly, the guys on the interview team have seen a lot more logbooks from flight options folks than I have, and if you call the People Department they may be able to give you a more authoritative answer.

Hope that helps!

Snoopy

 

[P3 Tweek]

300+?

SWAdude,

Confirm! Is the 300+ for 2005 in addition to those already in the pool or is the current pool included in the 300+ number?

Tweek

PS. paper app 8/02
B-737 type 8/03
e-app 1/04
PIC jet 2000
interview call nothing heard

 

[Challenger]

When did SWA pick you up? How long have you been there now?

I heard they cancelled hiring for remainder of the year

I got hired on the last DB I'm not planning on a class date until late fall if at all this year.

 

[qmaster3]

SWAdude,

Confirm! Is the 300+ for 2005 in addition to those already in the pool or is the current pool included in the 300+ number?

Tweek

PS. paper app 8/02
B-737 type 8/03
e-app 1/04
PIC jet 2000
interview call nothing heard

Tweek. You may not be roaming the halls of swa YET, but your avatar kicks A$$. Good luck to ya bro.

 

[FracCapt]

ok, so what about jet pic time? i'm at flt options....and everyone is typed and we swap seats as pf and pm. when i am flying pilot, that is still considered sic time. do you guys agree or would this be pic time. according to what SWA would like to see.

Technically, it's SIC time because you are not the one responsible for the aircraft. Even if you are typed, sitting in the left seat, and flying....but NOT designated by the company as PIC....the other guy is still in charge. However, Southwest's description is contradictory.

Southwest Airlines defines "Pilot in Command" as the Pilot responsible for the operation and safety of the aircraft during flight. This definition is taken from PART I of the FAR. Southwest Airlines further allows logging of PIC as follows: For an aircraft requiring a type rating: If both pilots are type rated, the pilot in the left seat and sole manipulator of the controls may log PIC.

In this situation, the two bold phrases are contradictory. Take your pick as to which one you want to follow, and be prepared to defend your decision either way. Then again, calling the HR department and asking them would probably be the better way to go. Good luck.