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Kernel foot, meet Kernel mouth.

It's not a new airport. Hedges are bad. We pay for our jobs. Age 65 is our fault. The demise of ATA is our fault. We're arrogant.

Did I forget any?

Add another: You turned the airline industry into Greyhound.

Hey, I made an honest mistake. Ironic that I was thrown under the bus for criticizing the media.

I've never heard anyone on these boards do that before.
 
I can see you guys are taking this pretty seriously.
 
Reading the Fine Print: Southwest Taking a Page from the AirTran Playbook


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Wanna get Southwest to begin service to your city? Wanna write a check?
If some of you are scratching your heads over the news that Southwest Airlines is going to start service from "Northwest Florida's New International Airport near Panama City, Florida" in May 2010, all one needs to do is take a look at the fine print in an SEC filing from the St. Joe Company -- a major land developer in the Florida panhandle.
According to St. Joe's SEC filing dated today, $14 million in revenue guarantees, profit sharing, and a no-compete agreement are just some of the "enticements" being put on the table for Southwest.
Is this AirTran or Southwest we're talking about?
"St. Joe has agreed, to the extent that Southwest operates at a loss, to make quarterly cash payments to Southwest to cover shortfalls in the results of Southwest’s operations at the new airport during the first three years of service. For purposes of the break even calculation, the agreement establishes fixed amounts for Southwest’s non-fuel expenses and the minimum revenues that will be attributable to the air service. It also provides that Southwest’s profits from the air service during the term of the agreement will be shared with St. Joe up to the maximum amount of St. Joe’s prior break even payments.

The term of the agreement extends for a period of three years after the commencement of Southwest’s air service at the new airport. The agreement may be terminated by St. Joe if the payments to Southwest exceed $14 million in the first year of air service, or $12 million in the second year of air service. St. Joe may also terminate the agreement if Southwest has not commenced air service to the new airport within 90 days of its opening. Southwest may terminate the agreement if its actual annual revenues attributable to the air service at the new airport are less than certain minimum annual amounts established in the agreement.
Southwest’s obligation to commence air service to the new airport is conditioned upon: (1) the certification of the new airport by the Federal Aviation Administration and the Transportation Security Administration on or before April 15, 2010; (2) receipt by the local Airport Authority of a certificate of occupancy for the new airport on or before April 15, 2010; (3) the execution of satisfactory agreements between Southwest and the Airport Authority authorizing Southwest to use and lease space at the new airport and to receive any cost mitigation measures that may be available from the Airport Authority; (4) the execution of an agreement between Southwest, the Bay County Tourist Development Council, the Panama City Beach Convention and Visitors Bureau and the Beaches of South Walton Tourist Development Council, no later than 30 days from the date of the agreement, regarding the coordination of marketing resources and efforts for the air service; (5) the execution of an agreement between Southwest and Coastal Vision 3000, no later than 60 days from the date of the agreement, regarding the establishment of a program through which Southwest would receive available room nights free of charge at various rental properties in Northwest Florida for use in the marketing efforts for the air service; and (6) the execution of any other agreement that Southwest deems necessary or appropriate prior to the commencement of the air service.

Southwest has agreed that it will not commence air service to any airport within 80 statute miles of the new airport during the term of the agreement. In the event Southwest starts service to any airport that is more than 80 statute miles but within 120 statute miles from the new airport during the term, Southwest and St. Joe will either negotiate a modification to the terms of the agreement to accommodate the impact of such service or the minimum revenues used in the annual break even calculations under the agreement will automatically be increased by 10%. In such event, Southwest has agreed that the air service to the new airport in Bay County would not be diminished."​
 
I think it was a poor choice. Pensacola would have made a lot more sense. I guess since AirTran operates out of there that they didn't want the competition. I doubt there will be too many folks wanting to go to Panama City. That was a spring break phase that wore out in the early 90s MTV era.
 
I think it was a poor choice. Pensacola would have made a lot more sense. I guess since AirTran operates out of there that they didn't want the competition. I doubt there will be too many folks wanting to go to Panama City. That was a spring break phase that wore out in the early 90s MTV era.


Tallahassee, Fort Walton beach, Dothan AL all about 80 mile or less from Panama City....not a bad choice.
 
Not really. However, when you speak without knowing the facts and then call somebody a moron, you make an ass out of yourself.

You mean like you?


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Originally Posted by XXXXX:
....uhhhh yeah, you just like to talk like you are one...
I'm watching you bud. Mess up again and "It's On!"
Let me also say, you have no clue what you are talking about...and with you being in neither company, you really have no reason to give a $hit. Kinda weird in my book.

Your response:

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I guess you have nothing to do either. You are right I don"t give a ********************, but it is fun watching jack asses like you respond to it. Maybe you should put me on your ignore list. But then again, I don't give a ********************.


Or this, seems you're real popular:

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Originally Posted by XXXXX
No your not a SWA pilot are you, Your just a wannabe tool with his nose up SWA butt. You hanging out at higher power pressing the flesh? Look up toady and sycophant in the dictionary.

Your response:

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If only you really knew who I was.
 
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Panama City Florida...........yeah, another exciting Florida city. Panama City, Panama, now you're talking.
 
It's not a new airport or runway or terminal. It's the same ol PFN airport with a new dress. Honestly, I know what I'm talking about. You all are morons........per da COLONEL. LOL, who's da idiot.?
 
It's not a new airport or runway or terminal. It's the same ol PFN airport with a new dress. Honestly, I know what I'm talking about. You all are morons........per da COLONEL. LOL, who's da idiot.?

You are an idiot, per da Colonel, hahaha......moron.
 

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