SWA schedules/QOL vs AAI

[madjack]

doubt it...especially now...

 

[waveflyer]

This isn't an SLI thread.

This is a calm discourse comparing work schedules and related items and I'm enjoying have a nice discourse with my future coworkers.

Please take your SLI comments back to an SLI thread.

Thanks in advance.

What he said. And the standard applies to all of us, not just the delta geeks.

 

[Ty Webb]

those Red Eyes full? You think they are here to stay? Do you get more $$ to fly them? Something, SWAPA will have to visit in the future.

They don't pay "extra" per se, except that, in the case of CDO's, you get 70 hours' pay for 35 hours' flying, and in the case of the redeyes, you get daily guarantee while you're sleeping in the hotel.

I haven't flown a redeye or CDO in 4 or 5 years . . . . If I lived in base, I wouldn't mind them, but sitting around waiting for the first flight home, after flying all night really sux. Plus, the looks you get when you're enjoying your "Miller Time" at 09:20 are annoying.

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

If you really want to have a valid discussion about the lines at the two companies, why compare your July line with our absolute minimum guarantee?

PS., I was always taught that it was rude to discuss one's pay. I understand the context, but some of you guys act like your whole self-worth depends on your W-2, when everyone else knows it's the size of your schlong that really matters. :laugh:

Because my line as is very near our min of 89 TFP for a 31 day month so I felt it was a valid comparison. To me pay is a large factor in my QOL but not my self worth.

Luv,
Ghetto

 

[Ty Webb]

Because my line as is very near our min of 89 TFP for a 31 day month so I felt it was a valid comparison. To me pay is a large factor in my QOL but not my self worth.

Luv,
Ghetto

The only time you are likely to see a minimum credit line at AirTran is when it is a CDO or some other non-regular line.

So, again, if you wanted a valid comparison, you would compare an average line with an average line. Otherwise, it's like putting a sock in your pants. :laugh:

 

[Ty Webb]

What he said. And the standard applies to all of us, not just the delta geeks.

Uh-oh, Dad's home . . . . :laugh:

I believe you were #3 to weigh in on the subject:

" Ok so I spend a good amount of time convincing guys to lower their expectations. SWA will give you more pay and more days off so don't let pride get in the way. Now you tell me that a ten year AAI guy makes more than a ten year SWA guy

."

 

[waveflyer]

Not a lecture- and im as hypocritical as we all are- applies to me too- I just agree with Lear and was enjoying the conversation and comparisons when it got away from SLI agendas.
I'm genuinely curious how the company will change things after operations merge. Will we keep red-eyes and CDOs? Will ATL continue as a hub and spoke as our whole system continues to have more intentional connect opportunities? Or be morphed into our standard point to point lines?
And it's good to hear what guys are actually doing and getting paid instead of what we assume.

 

[Ty Webb]

Fair enough.

I wonder about those (redeyes, CDO's) as well.

Some guys like them and bid 'em. A few CDO lines go very senior. The majority of our pilots, though, seem to not like them, just based on conversations and seeing the awards. Since your contract doesn't allow for them, it will be interesting to see whether SWA mngmnt has any interest in adding that type of flying, or whether they can find other ways to efficiently serve those markets.

 

[WTFOVER]

Shouldn't you all be considering the September 2010 snapshot? Airtran got a huge raise after the announcement.

 

[Ty Webb]

Shouldn't you all be considering the September 2010 snapshot? Airtran got a huge raise after the announcement.

Yawn. Troll city. :smash: