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This isn't an SLI thread.
This is a calm discourse comparing work schedules and related items and I'm enjoying have a nice discourse with my future coworkers.
Please take your SLI comments back to an SLI thread.
Thanks in advance.
those Red Eyes full? You think they are here to stay? Do you get more $$ to fly them? Something, SWAPA will have to visit in the future.
If you really want to have a valid discussion about the lines at the two companies, why compare your July line with our absolute minimum guarantee?
PS., I was always taught that it was rude to discuss one's pay. I understand the context, but some of you guys act like your whole self-worth depends on your W-2, when everyone else knows it's the size of your schlong that really matters. :laugh:
Because my line as is very near our min of 89 TFP for a 31 day month so I felt it was a valid comparison. To me pay is a large factor in my QOL but not my self worth.
Luv,
Ghetto
What he said. And the standard applies to all of us, not just the delta geeks.
."" Ok so I spend a good amount of time convincing guys to lower their expectations. SWA will give you more pay and more days off so don't let pride get in the way. Now you tell me that a ten year AAI guy makes more than a ten year SWA guy
Shouldn't you all be considering the September 2010 snapshot? Airtran got a huge raise after the announcement.
Not a lecture- and im as hypocritical as we all are- applies to me too- I just agree with Lear and was enjoying the conversation and comparisons when it got away from SLI agendas.
I'm genuinely curious how the company will change things after operations merge. Will we keep red-eyes and CDOs? Will ATL continue as a hub and spoke as our whole system continues to have more intentional connect opportunities? Or be morphed into our standard point to point lines?
And it's good to hear what guys are actually doing and getting paid instead of what we assume.
How come SWA hardly has any commutable trips?
The only time you are likely to see a minimum credit line at AirTran is when it is a CDO or some other non-regular line.
So, again, if you wanted a valid comparison, you would compare an average line with an average line. Otherwise, it's like putting a sock in your pants. :laugh:
I know Ty has repeatedly noted that his seniority at AAI affords him pretty good QOL and schedules with the days off he wants. I was curious just what Ty's schedule would look like (if he were bidding. That's not a shot at you Ty. People go out on med all the time.)
I asked a friend if I could see the AAI awards and lines. She let me log in to their Flica site which they use to bid. I looked at the two pilots directly above Ty's seniority (10th year)on the 737 ATL and one directly below. I then compared that to my own schedule for July. I am a fifth year FO in BWI at about 75%.
The three AAI lines were basically identical. Four-day trips, Sat-Tues. Each line had a full week off and 17 days off. All three lines worked the 4th of July weekend and holiday.
My July line works 3-days, Sun-Tues. My line has 18 days off. My line also has a week off, from July 3-9.
Now for the pay. All the AAI lines credit about 82, which at $155/hr is 12,700. My line credits 105 TFP, which at 115 is 12,100.
I'm not trying to incite any riots here. I just had a 19hr layover and was getting bored so I thought I would demonstrate how our schedules and QOL compare.
The only time you are likely to see a minimum credit line at AirTran is when it is a CDO or some other non-regular line.
So, again, if you wanted a valid comparison, you would compare an average line with an average line. Otherwise, it's like putting a sock in your pants. :laugh:
our .75:1 duty and higher min day take care of that.
....but our .75:1 duty......
Well, a variety on both sides have been posted, no one here gets a min line either -
Seems to me that AT capt pay IS roughly SWA 5-6 year FO pay. Am I wrong?