SWA Re-dos

[Afterprop]

For those of you who were unsuccessful with your first SWA interview, and then re-applied after the prerequisite waiting period, how long did it take for the second call? Or are some/most of you still waiting? BTW, my first interview date was June 24, 2004. Received the try again letter Jul 20.



Good luck to all.

‘Props

 

[thebluto]

15 months and still waiting. Haven't heard of anyone else who interviewed in 2004 getting called either.

 

[HalinTexas]

Interviewed 6/97, rejected 8/97. Reapplied 6/99, after the 2 year waiting period, called within 30 days. Unfortunately rejected, again. Best interview ever. 3rd application 11/21/04, haven't heard anything but unfavorable rumors.

I've heard they do like persistance.

 

[DAL737FO]

First interview 03/00 hired but ended up going to Delta (they gave me the earliest class date)

Reapplied 05/02 and nothing so far.

Hindsight is always 20/20

 

[AA717driver]

I wouldn't hold out much hope if you got hired and turned them down. I've not heard of too many companies who reconsidered someone who did that. Sorry.TC

 

[DAL737FO]

Actually I've talked to the People department a good bit about this subject and because I didn't take a class then leave then they say they don't hold it against me. What is hurting me right now is the fact that I've flown nothing but right seat since Jul 2000 and only have 1,450 PIC turbine. They say they will eventually get to me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[Geronimo4497]

What is hurting me right now is the fact that I've flown nothing but right seat since Jul 2000 and only have 1,450 PIC turbine. They say they will eventually get to me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

If all of us only had your problem......
Good Luck

 

[viking737]

DAL737FO.

You would leave Delta after 6 years to go to SWA?

 

[AMRCostUnit]

Actually I've talked to the People department a good bit about this subject and because I didn't take a class then leave then they say they don't hold it against me. What is hurting me right now is the fact that I've flown nothing but right seat since Jul 2000 and only have 1,450 PIC turbine. They say they will eventually get to me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I am in exactly the same position. Been an FO for 13 years and only have 1350 PIC from my C-141 days. No call since I applied in Feb 2004. Have a type and 800 hours and counting on the -800. Had a meeting with a chief over there and he said PIC is what is hurting me. I got the same "they will eventually get to me" comment too.

A year ago I would have left AA after 13 years but now it is not as cut and dried.

Unit

 

[Afterprop]

Any more out there . . .

Bump !

 

[ultrarunner]

Interviewed 6/97, rejected 8/97. Reapplied 6/99, after the 2 year waiting period, called within 30 days. Unfortunately rejected, again. Best interview ever. 3rd application 11/21/04, haven't heard anything but unfavorable rumors.

I've heard they do like persistance.

Someone here has GOT to have the number of those that went 0 or 2 and made it on the third try.

 

[Tina Fey's Scar]

At what point do you finally throw in the towel? Maybe you aren't cut out for that job....

 

[beytzim]

A friend applied back in the mid 90's. He was interviewed and subsequently turned down 3 times over the next 6-7 years until he made it on the FOURTH interview. He's been there now for just over four years. He was persistent, to say the least.

 

[Tina Fey's Scar]

Disregard then....

 

[Gumshoe]

Anyone know where I can send my request for a refund on my type rating? People Department? Stupidest 5K I ever spent.

 

[TAZ MAN]

Anyone know where I can send my request for a refund on my type rating? People Department? Stupidest 5K I ever spent.

Give it a try. I'm sure it will help you on your next interview with them.


Like they made you do it. Take some responsibility. Obviously this part of your personality came out in the interview.

 

[BHS]

I applied January 2001, interviewed June 2001. No luck, reapplied a year later. Online app January of this year. I have been told like some others on this post the same thing. I have been flying the 73 for 6 years 2000 hours in it. Over 1800 hours pic in turbo prop but, lacking in in current pic. Was told that hiring will continue this year.

 

[chacka]

Afterprop,
You are a class act, or should I say "Lord of the Ring." I am sure they will call you.

 

[Gumshoe]

Give it a try. I'm sure it will help you on your next interview with them.


Like they made you do it. Take some responsibility. Obviously this part of your personality came out in the interview.

Obviously, I would just like the opportunity to interview. Thanks for the psych 101 eval, however. My post was based on frusteration about not getting the "first call" with lots of military and civilian time and PIC. Yes I know they hire furloughed but I think the percentages are very low.

 

[Lear70]

I'm in somewhat of the same boat... interviewed July and got the "nasty letter" on Labor Day weekend. Had kept in touch with most people from my interview and heard the "good calls" had gone out so at least I knew it was coming.

A friend of mine checked up on it and told me it was either a bad HR reference from my current airline or someone "blackballed" me on one of the "lists" they put up after interviews, the PD wouldn't tell him which.

Either way, I'm left with the question: If my interview was successful but the reject was due to a bad HR reference or being blackballed, should I even bother reapplying?

Would a bad HR reference at this airline keep SWA from interviewing me again, based solely on that reference on the first interview?

I have no idea what I might have done or who I might have offended enough to have them torpedo my career with a "blackball" (that's a pretty sh*tty thing to do IMHO, unless you knew the person to have psychological issues that would make them unsafe), and our HR department at Pinnacle tells ALL prospective employers that NO ONE is elligible for rehire here so I could explain the bad reference (especially since I'm still working here).

I just want to know if I even will get the chance to try again or if either of those are "permanent stigma" and I should cut my losses and focus my energy somewhere else...

Questions, questions...

 

[enigma]

Would a bad HR reference at this airline keep SWA from interviewing me again, based solely on that reference on the first interview?

The bad ref would keep them from hiring you the first time. It apparently won't keep them from calling you in for a second try. I was shot down by an ill timed call from my then aviation department manager (part 91 "chief pilot") after I'd been called for the drug test. Which leads me to my only grief with SWA, a story for later. Anyway, I was called for a later interview, which I didn't pass. I've never understood how I could pass the first time, yet fail the second, .....who knows? But for your question, I believe that they will give you a fair chance the second time around, doing otherwise would be economically stupid for them. Why bring you in and waste their own time if they have no intention of hiring you?

regards and good luck,
enigma

PS, later is now. I feel like typing. Rhetorical question coming up. Why would SWA reject a person whom they had taken all of the way through their own selection process, after receiving a call from someone who they've never seen face to face? In my case, I meet the requirements to interview, I did so. I passed the three interviews, passed the "past employers" background checks, passed the "recommendation" phase, passed the PRIA phase, passed the "blacklisted by someone I didn't know, list of names on the crewroom wall" phase, apparently passed the DB, and passed the piss test. ....

Only to get the rejection after my boss called to demand that they tell him (not on my behalf) if they were hiring me away from his department because he "needed to be able to plan for my departure with more than two weeks notice".

In short, they sat across the table from me, asked their questions that are intended to get to know me, got to know me, liked me, decided to hire me (based upon my buds on the inside), then rejected me based on a phone call from someone they knew almost NOTHING about. The maddening thing to me was that he, the bad guy in this story, had absolutely ZERO respect for SWA. He used to write letters to HOU controllers complaining about SWA's taxi style etc. If they had taken one tenth the time to know who he was as they did me, they would most likely have immediately dismissed anything he had to say.

Deep breath, Deep breath. OK, rant over, I feel better now. thanks for listening.

 

[Wild Weasel]

for what it is worth...yes they do apparently call guys back. A buddy in my ANG failed a SWA interview last June. He just a call for another interview later this month. I don't know anymore details.

 

[johnny taliban]

A buddy in my ANG failed a SWA interview last June. He just a call for another interview later this month.

Im sure your buddy is a great guy and deserves another shot but it really makes me wonder just how fair SWA's selection process is. There are plenty of qualified pilots waiting for their FIRST interview and a guy that didnt make the cut first time around is getting a second shot while the rest of stand on the sideline.

oh well, who said life was fair?

Johnny