SWA Poolies

[Captzaahlie]

If Tanker Clown said it on Flight Info it HAS to be true......

 

[texman]

Unfortunately, I have to agree. This is why Carl K. said the furlough option was still on the table after the upcoming schedule reductions later this year. I think furlough is unlikely but it is an option that is being considered. Things could change but I just don't see it. Even with a new city or Canada announced. We have too many pilots right now period. These lower blocked lines and lack of extra flying have cost me and my brothers thousands. To hire in this current state would be irresponsible.

I agree, but to furlough would be a game changer for the whole company.

 

[SELFloadingCRGO]

I agree, but to furlough would be a game changer for the whole company.

Agreed, and that doesn't even begin to address the fact of weighing the costs of furloughing people against just keeping them on property.



SLC

 

[texman]

Agreed, and that doesn't even begin to address the fact of weighing the costs of furloughing people against just keeping them on property.



SLC

yup, but also the culture of taking care of each other. Time will tell.

 

[texman]

Just got done talking to one of the chiefs, and I asked him about the fall reduction. He said that it is a normal reduction of 2% and not the the 7% that happen when the economy tanked. Also the F word is not in the mix.

 

[FlyVMI]

We all hope that hiring resumes soon. Good news is, as of 4-15-2010, you no longer have to carry your flight bag as an SWA Pilot. Jep ship sets on all our aircraft now. Good luck!

 

[texman]

We all hope that hiring resumes soon. Good news is, as of 4-15-2010, you no longer have to carry your flight bag as an SWA Pilot. Jep ship sets on all our aircraft now. Good luck!

And we are not going to codeshare with WestJet anymore!

 

[waveflyer]

That makes more sense- if wn was going to furlough they'd have done it last fall- now the timing seems good once rnp is finished to take advantage of some new cities and opportunities- won't be explosive growth- but I'd bet we'll run a few classes before the year is done.

 

[TZtoSWA]

That makes more sense- if wn was going to furlough they'd have done it last fall- now the timing seems good once rnp is finished to take advantage of some new cities and opportunities- won't be explosive growth- but I'd bet we'll run a few classes before the year is done.

They had better get the line totals back up and Extra Fly, Daily, and Monthly OT back to normal levels before one new hire sets foot on property. I don't know how anyone can say we need to run some classes with the way things are now. I sit reserve on purpose and I very rarely fly. I have never seen it like this in the 6 years I have been here.

 

[waveflyer]

really? They "better"? Or what? You gonna quit?

Where are you based?
I've flown every day on reserve and can fly as much as I want on my off days- I think we'd all like to see the productivity of trips up, but in case it's been 6 years or never since your last airline gig- we're still way more productive than most places- ever do a 5 day that paid 18 hrs?

 

[TZtoSWA]

They had better get the totals back up before we hire otherwise it's wasting productivity. We would not be realizing the efficiencies that we once had.

All my buds have taken a pay hit with the lower blocked lines and lack of OT. It's not just my base. They need to take care of those of us that are here on property first. Poolies are NOT employees yet. I want them here as much as anybody does but we need to get everyone's pay back up before we start emptying the pool.

Don't talk to me about other airlines. I've been at 4. One of them was a predominately long haul int'l carrier with a throw darts at a board business plan. Talk about wasted productivity...I've lived it.

I want us to hire as bad as anybody does. Problem is we are thick on pilots right now. Gary has said this, General Magill says it, Carl at SWAPA says it, and from my experience they are correct. Gary said this week on CNBC we are NOT going to hire. We are going to let attrition thin out the ranks. At the message to the field he said the same thing. He also laid out a revenue target that we have to hit before growth resumes. We are nowhere close.

 

[waveflyer]

That's a strange statement. I think it's safe to assume that we all want hiring- and all the factors that go along with it- meaning back to the old productivity and lean pilot force- where we 'need' to hire.

But there have been changes- more fudge factor in the schedules = less efficient. Older pilots = less efficient. Bigger, more delay prone airports = less efficient.

I trust our # crunchers know what they are doing and we're not going to start hiring wrecklessly.

 

[ableone]

They had better get the totals back up before we hire otherwise it's wasting productivity. We would not be realizing the efficiencies that we once had.

All my buds have taken a pay hit with the lower blocked lines and lack of OT. It's not just my base. They need to take care of those of us that are here on property first. Poolies are NOT employees yet. I want them here as much as anybody does but we need to get everyone's pay back up before we start emptying the pool.

Don't talk to me about other airlines. I've been at 4. One of them was a predominately long haul int'l carrier with a throw darts at a board business plan. Talk about wasted productivity...I've lived it.

I want us to hire as bad as anybody does. Problem is we are thick on pilots right now. Gary has said this, General Magill says it, Carl at SWAPA says it, and from my experience they are correct. Gary said this week on CNBC we are NOT going to hire. We are going to let attrition thin out the ranks. At the message to the field he said the same thing. He also laid out a revenue target that we have to hit before growth resumes. We are nowhere close.

Translation: I made it, pull the ladder up.

 

[waveflyer]

Pull the ladder up?

WN should run fat so that somebody else can have a job?

 

[texman]

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They had better get the line totals back up and Extra Fly, Daily, and Monthly OT back to normal levels before one new hire sets foot on property. I don't know how anyone can say we need to run some classes with the way things are now. I sit reserve on purpose and I very rarely fly. I have never seen it like this in the 6 years I have been here.

What r the normal levels of extra fly, dot and mot. Where r u based? I sit reserve and always fly. Unless u r a big time four striper. Lol let's hop we start doing something.Canada here we come !

 

[MILPILOT17]

If you guys want to fly then get off your A$$E$ and go fly! The flying is out there, but you have to get off FI and go get it. I've been called 3 times in the last 26 hours for JA. Stop talking about line totals and stop being lazy

 

[Moon-dog]

No don't answer the phone, go back on active duty, take a job in China!!

 

[California]

What is the longest SWA has gone without hiring pilots? When?

 

[DeucesWild]

Have you ever noticed that the best place to work today, is not necessarily the best place to work tomorrow? Hopefully Southwest does not become part of this list.

1) Braniff
2) PanAm
3) Eastern
4) TWA
5) United
6) Southwest

Rise and Fall of the Greats.

Maybe the Rise is complete and the Fall has begun??

 

[waveflyer]

Maybe the Rise is complete and the Fall has begun??

Maybe- and that's been predicted before. But not in my experience and certainly not if I can help it. I've had experience with most airlines in the country - my job security comes from how ethical our mgmt is and how much better we are at operating than everyone else. My passengers leave the plane happier than any other place I've worked.

I think as a pilot, you try and get hired at the company with the best management, then work hard and cross your fingers.

Time will tell- I hope GK has a master plan and isn't just paralyzed by numbers as an accountant- there is a lot of opportunity out there still

 

[slaquer5]

Maybe the Rise is complete and the Fall has begun??

You write responses to your on posts.( In other words, you talking to your self online) What else are the voices in your head tell you. Dude I am not a professional but I am thinking you need help.

 

[waveflyer]

You write responses to your on posts.( In other words, you talking to your self online) What else are the voices in your head tell you. Dude I am not a professional but I am thinking you need help.

I saw that too-
pretty damn funny