SWA Plans Adding 25 International Flights from FLL

[Flopgut]

Flop...the General of United!!

Fine by me

 

[tankerhead]

Btw: For anyone lurking, you know you're right when SWA guys start assailing your mental health. There's a reason the required reading for working there is a book called "nuts". They're all nuttier than squirrel turds.

No, it's because your musings and rants are on a level not often seen outside of an institution. You don't just critique and debate...you foam at the mouth and it's a little disconcerting. I hope I'm never at a hotel bar trying to enjoy a burger when you roll up.

You'd feel better if you would just fly your line and stop pouring so much emotion into IAH vs Hobby and all the other stuff that upsets you so much. Just fly.

 

[Flopgut]

How many times have I explained here that I would not want to see SWA furlough, or lose money, or see a BK? Plenty. When I say it I mean it. I've seen enough loss. However, I notice that I rarely get the same sentiment back from SWA pilots. Which is fine, I don't expect it. What I would like to see stop is SWA pilots purposely misreading my tone because they do not have an answer!! I'm cool as the other side of the pillow! No heartburn. I'm just trying to figure out what the next SWA move will be because I know you're trying to kneecap us. That's your whole business.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Wrong...Our whole business is to make money pure and simple. Are politics involved? You bet, and if you don't think UAL, DAL, JB, or anyone else uses political muscle (bribery) to help their agenda you are living in a small bubble.

BTW, I take exception about your comment and SWA pilots wanting loss at others expense. I have yet to meet a pilot that wishes any fellow aviator out of a job.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Bubba characterizes the situation as though there are Countries that "want service" from SWA. That is really not the case anywhere in the world, for any airline. You get as much as you give in most cases. That's why so many of these airports that are legacy hubs are so big.

I'm not outraged about any of this. Somewhat disgusted? Yes. You ladies get all riled up because you think anyone with a competing opinion to SWA practices must be nuts, but that's far from the truth.

Yes, other countries and their cities want air service to the US. Are you really disputing this? Whether it's us or any other airline. Whether or not any particular countries service the US "in return" is up to them, and the particular airport that they want to serve. NOT the airline. Do you expect Volaris to somehow provide the ability for United to serve Mexico because Volaris flies here from Mexico? That's between the airline and the served airport (and of course, appropriate national aviation regulations). If any Mexican or South American airline wants to serve Houston to "get back" at us for daring to serve their country from Houston, then they're welcome to do so. They can use IAH or HOU, depending on their wants and needs. I would presume they would want to use IAH, due to more room (not to mention code-sharing with IAH airlines), but if they really want to serve Hobby, then they can do that as well. There'll already be one gate ready for them, and if they want or need more, then the Hobby administration will build more to meet the demand. Why do you have so much trouble understanding that?

You know, on the one hand, you bitch at us for not "competing" by flying out of IAH (where none of our domestic feed is; but that somehow seems "fair" to you), and then on the other, you proclaim that no other country will let us fly there from Hobby because there's "not enough room" for them to send their airlines to Hobby. Good God, Flop, make up your mind. By your reasoning, we're doing you a huge favor by attempting to fly out of Hobby. Since it obviously "won't work," you guys have nothing to worry about. See? Problem solved for you.

You're welcome.

Bubba

 

[SWA Bubba]

I've never been outraged about you going South of the border, just the way you propose to do it. You should have had to use IAH and compete with us. Used the FIS that the taxpayers built. Not short circuited lawful, fair competition by building your own terminal at an airport separate from almost all competition.

And we don't have monopoly routes. We code share with other airlines and abide by all bilateral agreements that are part of a level playing field between Countries. What SWA feels entitled to is a Hobby monopoly. You want your own terminal, you'll code share with no one, and you're absolutely sure another Country should accommodate you with space wherever you want. That's about as a-hole-esque as you can get.

Btw: For anyone lurking, you know you're right when SWA guys start assailing your mental health. There's a reason the required reading for working there is a book called "nuts". They're all nuttier than squirrel turds.

Wait; lemme get this straight...

You're defending code-sharing? And as a union airline, somehow you think we're doing something wrong by NOT code-sharing with others? By NOT allowing the company to make money by having another, cheaper airline do flying that we can and should do? Is that really what you think? What kind of backwards-ass logic is that?

Southwest abides by all laws, regulations and agreements. Please stop randomly spouting off BS that we don't, since you can't seem to actually list a single friggin' one that we don't.

As far as a Hobby monopoly goes, again you're mistaken. There are plenty of airlines who fly out of Hobby. And the reason we're building a new terminal there is not for any sinister reason, but because we want to provide service that no other airline currently does or wanted to do. We're expanding its abilities. How is that a bad thing (I mean other than to challenge United's Houston international monopoly)? And as far as monopolies go, you should check your facts. If you add up all the air service in Houston (IAH and HOU combined), you'll find that United controls more than 75% of the combined total. That includes Southwest's "piddly" operation at Hobby. If you are really concerned about monopolies, you should probably complain to your own management, and get them to cut it out. They're the ones with a total Houston monopoly.

Bubba

 

[General Lee]

Wait; lemme get this straight...

You're defending code-sharing? And as a union airline, somehow you think we're doing something wrong by NOT code-sharing with others? By NOT allowing the company to make money by having another, cheaper airline do flying that we can and should do? Is that really what you think? What kind of backwards-ass logic is that?

Southwest abides by all laws, regulations and agreements. Please stop randomly spouting off BS that we don't, since you can't seem to actually list a single friggin' one that we don't.

As far as a Hobby monopoly goes, again you're mistaken. There are plenty of airlines who fly out of Hobby. And the reason we're building a new terminal there is not for any sinister reason, but because we want to provide service that no other airline currently does or wanted to do. We're expanding its abilities. How is that a bad thing (I mean other than to challenge United's Houston international monopoly)? And as far as monopolies go, you should check your facts. If you add up all the air service in Houston (IAH and HOU combined), you'll find that United controls more than 75% of the combined total. That includes Southwest's "piddly" operation at Hobby. If you are really concerned about monopolies, you should probably complain to your own management, and get them to cut it out. They're the ones with a total Houston monopoly.

Bubba

Hobby is a dump, but it's your dump!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[labatt]

Hobby is a dump, but it's your dump!



Bye Bye---General Lee

It was. Completely redone and is as nice a terminal you'll find anywhere. Much nicer than terminals t-d in ATL. More importantly, it is absolutely packed.

 

[General Lee]

It was. Completely redone and is as nice a terminal you'll find anywhere. Much nicer than terminals t-d in ATL. More importantly, it is absolutely packed.

You mean like "$1.3 billion profit in one quarter" packed? If so, fantastic!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Mach 80]

Too bad everyone in the industry wasn't able to shred contracts, retirements, dump debt, and screw over creditors and bond holders.