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Fearless Tower

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I've been flying Southwest for quite a while now, but on a recent flight to PHX I saw something I had not seen before. As I was walking forward to get off the plane I noticed the FO in one passenger rows with latex gloves on cleaing out the trash from the seat backs. Is this a new SWA policy, or just helpin' the FA's out for the holidays?
 
Here we go. 15 pages minimum. Grab a beer everyone.
 
i'm guessing the f/a's were hot and he was banking points...

Beat me to it...

Good lord, anyhow. Why do people get so jaw-droppingly awed by a pilot helping out in the cabin? What the hell is so wrong with lending a hand? When I've got my crap done up front (which takes five minutes, MAX), I'll occasionally move back and cross seatbelts and fold blankets, too. So what?
 
I've been flying Southwest for quite a while now, but on a recent flight to PHX I saw something I had not seen before. As I was walking forward to get off the plane I noticed the FO in one passenger rows with latex gloves on cleaing out the trash from the seat backs. Is this a new SWA policy, or just helpin' the FA's out for the holidays?

Yeah, he's probably the same guy waiting on the ramp to check the lights as the plane taxis in.
 
I've been flying Southwest for quite a while now, but on a recent flight to PHX I saw something I had not seen before. As I was walking forward to get off the plane I noticed the FO in one passenger rows with latex gloves on cleaing out the trash from the seat backs. Is this a new SWA policy, or just helpin' the FA's out for the holidays?

5 pages minimum, over under is 2. Also included will be slams to JB, Alaska, the Delta merger.

Dude, get over it already, no it's not in the contract, yes, it's a good thing when you have the time. My bet is on the F/O hunting for that nights nooky.
 
Beat me to it...

Good lord, anyhow. Why do people get so jaw-droppingly awed by a pilot helping out in the cabin? What the hell is so wrong with lending a hand? When I've got my crap done up front (which takes five minutes, MAX), I'll occasionally move back and cross seatbelts and fold blankets, too. So what?

Two reasons come to mind right off the bat....

One is the "it's not my job mentality" which is a sad sad epidemic taking over in this country. People just have no work ethic anymore.

The other is the "I am a Skygod and too good to do lowly things such as cleaning the cabin" mentality. Unfortunately people think that once they reach a certain level in their career, now other more "lowly" individuals should cater to them. It's really pathetic actually.

I don't see anything wrong with helping out your fellow co-workers.
 
Holy crap I agree with megaD...
 
I've been flying Southwest for quite a while now, but on a recent flight to PHX I saw something I had not seen before. As I was walking forward to get off the plane I noticed the FO in one passenger rows with latex gloves on cleaing out the trash from the seat backs. Is this a new SWA policy, or just helpin' the FA's out for the holidays?


It's called TEAMWORK! Try it sometime.
 
Two reasons come to mind right off the bat....

One is the "it's not my job mentality" which is a sad sad epidemic taking over in this country. People just have no work ethic anymore.

The other is the "I am a Skygod and too good to do lowly things such as cleaning the cabin" mentality. Unfortunately people think that once they reach a certain level in their career, now other more "lowly" individuals should cater to them. It's really pathetic actually.

I don't see anything wrong with helping out your fellow co-workers.


So Mega's feeling a little frisky and takes her deadbeat fiance out for a meal at a nice restaurant (:eek: )... as she sits down she looks over and sees the head chef busing tables in between preparing meals... would you say good for him for helping out the bus boys?

How about the surgeon mopping up the operating room in between patients?

Same with the dentist in between patients?

Just wondering?

Happy New Year! :beer:

BBB
 
"One is the "it's not my job mentality" which is a sad sad epidemic taking over in this country. People just have no work ethic anymore.

The other is the "I am a Skygod and too good to do lowly things such as cleaning the cabin" mentality. Unfortunately people think that once they reach a certain level in their career, now other more "lowly" individuals should cater to them."

There is at least one other reason (mine) and that is I already donate at least an hour a day to my airline and I that is already too much. No more working for free. If I donate my time it will be to a worthy organization like the childrens hospital or the shelter, not to a corporation where I go to exchange work for money.

If the company would like to pay me to clean that would be fine with me and I would gladly help out. Besides, I would love to know which airlines executives clean their headquarters building.

Incidentally the fa's at swa get paid ground time for cleaning.
 
"It's not my job" mentality. Case in point.

There is at least one other reason (mine) and that is I already donate at least an hour a day to my airline and I that is already too much. No more working for free. If I donate my time it will be to a worthy organization like the childrens hospital or the shelter, not to a corporation where I go to exchange work for money.

If the company would like to pay me to clean that would be fine with me and I would gladly help out. Besides, I would love to know which airlines executives clean their headquarters building.

Incidentally the fa's at swa get paid ground time for cleaning.
 
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the head chef busing tables in between preparing meals... would you say good for him for helping out the bus boys?

How about the surgeon mopping up the operating room in between patients?

Same with the dentist in between patients?

1. Yes as long as they wash their hands thoroughly.

2. I guarantee if a surgeon was seen doing anything remotely close to that he/she would be every hospital employee's favorite surgeon. I speak from experience on that one.

3. Same with a dentist.
 
A few years ago our CEO (at the time), Richard Anderson, made all of the VP's schlep bags and assist passengers at the main ticket counters in MSP and DTW on the day before Thanksgiving (aka: "The Evacuation of Saigon III"). He did it without fanfare. I stumbled across them in action, and was pretty stunned.

I thought it was good leadership, a rare commodity in the industry right now, especially in RedTailLAnd. It's the kind of thing we did automatically when I was with my Marine infantry battalion: The officers ate last, and the leaders did any job to accomplish the mission. When we were fragged for an "get there now!" mission while in Japan, the C.O. was in the bucket-brigade line with the rest of us, loading seabags. He didn't do it all the time...only when it was a good idea.

I've helped pick-up the cabin several times, and made P.A.'s at the podium to help the agents inform passengers about delays. I fetch wheelchairs, and deliver fuel slips on the ramp. Not all the time...only when it's a good idea. I do it to help my fellow employees, because it's our company. If the leadership-averse turds running this operation refuse to help us, then we're gonna have to help each other. We'll still be here long after those nimrods are screwing-up some other company.

(But I can still bust the balls of JetBlue guys for doing it, right?)
 
So Mega's feeling a little frisky and takes her deadbeat fiance out for a meal at a nice restaurant (:eek: )... as she sits down she looks over and sees the head chef busing tables in between preparing meals... would you say good for him for helping out the bus boys?

Or the chef owns the restaurant. What airline is it you work for BBB?
 
I read this in a crazy, overpriced college text....

Each Southwest employee has two major customer groups that are to be treated with respect and given the best service possible; external (paying pax), and internal (co-workers). The idea manifests itself in a buh-zillion different ways; helping with the cabin I imagine is one.

Hopefully this helps you get your head around this pilot's unbelievable act.



If not, then... well, the guy was probably just trying to get laid.
 
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Yeah, he's probably the same guy waiting on the ramp to check the lights as the plane taxis in.

That, however, IS in the SOP.
That actually impressed the hell out of me. When I went down to the interview last year, I noticed that right about when the airplane was about to arrive the catering truck, the belt loaders, The marshallers and the FO was standing at their locations ready to go. Once the airplane stopped and the beacon was off, eveyone jumped the plane, pax came off, pax got on and they were outta there. Fast fast....but not rushed. It's just a matter of being ready for it when it rolls in. I was impressed.

And what's wrong with helping the FA? I work at Expressjet, I am a Captain and I go back and help when I have time....not all the time but if I have some time. It's not in my manuals, it's just a matter of backing your fellow crewmembers up.
 
I recall a letter to the editor in Professional Pilot magazine written by a Delta pilot saying that the SWA pilots who helped clean the cabins were very un-professional because they should be spending that time "looking over the weather, route of flight, and release and by not doing that they were jeopordizing the safety of the flight."

Yessir, I know it certainly takes me 20 or 25 minutes to study my weather and release.
 
A real pilot has all the weather patterns and forecasts memorized before he leaves his home or hotel room in the morning. <Grunt>
 
Not to be an a$$, but I have worked too hard to clean the cabin.

It's unfortunate that you feel that helping clean the cabin and helping fellow co-workers is beneath you. Do you have a maid come to your house and clean up after you too? Sad sad, so pathetically sad.
 
It's called TEAMWORK! Try it sometime.

My first job out of college was Third Mate on a merchant ship that was designed to be run by a crew of 45....we ran it with about 25. BELIEVE me, I know about teamwork and have no problem doing the grunt work.....I posted the observation simply because I was curious about something I had never seen before.

My personal thoughts on the matter are this: If a pilot wants to help clean the cabin because out of his or her own free will because they feel it is the right thing to do and they want to support the company I see no problem with that.....now if the company expects the pilots to do that sort of thing so that they can make more money for themselves and the shareholders at the expense of the employees......I think that sucks.
 

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