SWA lands at wrong Branson Airport

[Nindiri]

Well, who can argue with that? I mean, clearly, insulting other people is the best way of preventing accidents.

 

[waveflyer]

Either ATFQ's or STFU you dumb geek

(Was that better?

I didn't feel any actual animosity when I wrote it, so you shouldn't be insulted- )

 

[Nindiri]

<shrugs>

Whatever. Bubba and you are obviously angry and defensive. Nothing I can do about that, anyway.

 

[waveflyer]

"Please let me know how landing at the wrong airport is related to LGA where a captain basically lost her mind took over an airplane at 100' and crashed?"

I'm not angry at all- just wonder why you're ducking the questions?
Let me learn from you

 

[Nindiri]

Can you really not see it, Waveflyer? It's pretty obvious, from a crew landing long and fast instead of going around in Burbank, to a CA wrecking one in LGA because she wouldn't take a few extra minutes to go around, to this latest incident of a crew landing at the wrong airport because they couldn't be bothered to slow down a little and use all their electronic aids to verify the airport. And if it can happen to all of them, it can happen to any of us unless we make some changes.

And yet, here you are still defending the status quo that keeps setting these crews up.

 

[LJ45]

Wow, that is all I can say about some of you guys

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Okay, so according to Bubba and Wave, only 3 out of 4 of those incidents could have been avoided by slowing down, using all available resources, and or going around. MDW was the asphalt.

BTW Wave, how do you know at what altitude she took over in LGA?

 

[waveflyer]

You're saying we have a systemic culture of rushing?

And if I disagree then I'm burying my head in the sand?

 

[waveflyer]

I don't- the rumor here is she took control below 100'-

How do you know why she didn't want to go around?

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

You're saying we have a systemic culture of rushing?

And if I disagree then I'm burying my head in the sand?

Look on the bright side, it weren't for the pilots rushing, who knows how bad on time performance would be.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

I don't- the rumor here is she took control below 100'-

How do you know why she didn't want to go around?

I don't know, if I think I have to take an airplane at a 100 ft. at a special airport, I'm going around, unless of course I don't think the airplane will fly for some reason. It's pretty cool in an automated airplane even with the autopilot off. Push the TOGA buttons and follow the flight director. I'm sure it's much more difficult in your 700's and aiming for the concrete may have been the safest option .

 

[StopNTSing]

Can you really not see it, Waveflyer? It's pretty obvious, from a crew landing long and fast instead of going around in Burbank, to a CA wrecking one in LGA because she wouldn't take a few extra minutes to go around, to this latest incident of a crew landing at the wrong airport because they couldn't be bothered to slow down a little and use all their electronic aids to verify the airport.

You do realize that in the span from Burbank to LaGuardia that this same "rushing" airline conducted more than 15 million (yes, that's a 15 and six zeros) uneventful flights, don't you?

And if it can happen to all of them, it can happen to any of us unless we make some changes.

And yet, here you are still defending the status quo that keeps setting these crews up.

If you think there have been basically no changes to how this airline operates since Burbank...well...you're just showing your ignorance.

 

[waveflyer]

I don't know, if I think I have to take an airplane at a 100 ft. at a special airport, I'm going around, unless of course I don't think the airplane will fly for some reason. It's pretty cool in an automated airplane even with the autopilot off. Push the TOGA buttons and follow the flight director. I'm sure it's much more difficult in your 700's and aiming for the concrete may have been the safest option .

And you're saying this thinking there's even one other SWA pilot who disagrees with you?

 

[freightdogfred]

Awesome Thread. It's CRM at at it's finest. Substitute Nindiri as the FO, Wave and Bubba as the captain and reread all the posts. Nindiri (to his credit) asserts himself but is assaulted and beaten down. Classic CRM

This thread alone should raise concerns

 

[waveflyer]

Brilliant-
Because yes, bubba and I are captains of FI with all duly afforded authority that all internet trolls are assigned

That...or ndiri doesn't have an actual argument or he would state it and we'd debate it as equals- talk about it.
I don't, in actuality, have any problem expressing concerns about SWA ops-
He's just missing the mark and won't explain further-
He's flaming with purposeful vagueness. He's trying to be annoying and I would be if I cared and weren't a troll who's tried to annoy an FI member or 10 myself
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If he has an actual concern-

post it-

as it is, he doesn't know his head from his ass on the subject and anyone on FI should have thick enough skin to handle that

 

[ATLplt]

Never mind, not worth the effort...

 

[Jammin]

SWA Coming to DCA

Watch out P56 !!!