SWA lands at wrong Branson Airport

[scoreboardII]

On one hand I truly hope these guys keep their jobs because from the outside, It appears that the swa culture is easily described by their taxi speed and that's a company problem. On the other hand, my career depends on each of us getting it right every time. If you're too lazy to string an approach and verify where you are, you need to find another job.
I hope that swa will slow their taxi speed a little?

I never knew taxi speed resulted in landing at the wrong airport. Thanks for the wisdom. Be careful how you respond.

 

[4day]

Barring egregious disregard of SOPs I'd think a tailor-made LOFT with some OE with a line check ought to do it. Of course getting the POI to buy off on it is necessary and they are often political animals.
One thing for sure, you've got two pilots who'll never do that again.

There has been 2 guys in recent months, on the Airtran side ( aka dying vine), that have been fired by SW Mgt for issues completely unrelated to flying. There actions where stupid but didn't have anything to do with the lives of pax and loss of a hull. If these guys get OE and a slap on the wrist it will defiantly set up for problems in the future. I don't know how this happened but everyone here has a pretty damn good idea.

 

[densoo]

I never knew taxi speed resulted in landing at the wrong airport. Thanks for the wisdom. Be careful how you respond.

It's disconcerting to think someone fails to see how pushing the envelope is disconnected from a greater risk of exceeding the envelope, and that pushing the envelope in one area (taxi) cannot be connected to an exceedence in another area (landing).

 

[HowardBorden]

It's disconcerting to think someone fails to see how pushing the envelope is disconnected from a greater risk of exceeding the envelope, and that pushing the envelope in one area (taxi) cannot be connected to an exceedence in another area (landing).

If you equate pushing the envelope to complying with FOM taxi guidelines in an FAA approved document then you are correct, I fail to see how that is connected in any way to disregarding company procedures in the landing phase.

 

[densoo]

If you equate pushing the envelope to complying with FOM taxi guidelines in an FAA approved document then you are correct, I fail to see how that is connected in any way to disregarding company procedures in the landing phase.

Yes, keep repeating that. It may help. Operating to the limit of all guidelines at all times is the common sense way to approach safety. If they didn't want us to go right up to the limits then why would they write them down for us to know what they are? I assume you also accept unlimited MELs because, hey, if they say it's legal it must be safe.

 

[The Prussian]

Was there a jump seater also in the cockpit?

Yes...AP now reporting that there was a Dispatcher on the jumpseat.

 

[Dan Roman]

I never knew taxi speed resulted in landing at the wrong airport. Thanks for the wisdom. Be careful how you respond.

Actually it's along the lines of a good landing starts with a good approach. I.E how you conduct every phase of your flight is, in fact, connected.
If you are of the mindset that beating the crap out of the passengers to save a minute or 2 on the taxiway, it stands to reason that you would also be in a hurry and more vulnerable to mistakes once airborne.
Now that said, WE ALL LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES! This could happen to anyone. It's pretty weak to start pointing fingers when something goes wrong. Everyone one of us has made mistakes. It's the ones that think they are above other pilots mistakes tend to be the really weak ones you gotta watch.

 

[Dan Roman]

If you equate pushing the envelope to complying with FOM taxi guidelines in an FAA approved document then you are correct, I fail to see how that is connected in any way to disregarding company procedures in the landing phase.

Howie, you really don't see how being in a hurry up mode can increase the likelihood of a mistake?

 

[waveflyer]

Taxi speed?

You guys are dumb and just mad we don't play your paid by the minute game

 

[waveflyer]

It's the ones that think they are above other pilots mistakes tend to be the really weak ones you gotta watch.

Well said