SWA GK talks about the industry

[jke406]

SW could easily muscle its way into any AT market and do fine.

Really? So we should expect an announcement that SWA is going to start ATL service...when?

keep trying, fella. even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

 

[ATLplt]

No dig here...

Why the change of heart about mergers on the Airtran side of the house....suddenly being the airline that is bought makes things not so happy???

Now you sorta get a feeling of what the people at Midwest went through...

The "people at Midwest" were going to get a fair integration along with the promise of growth in their own home base. When SWA folks want us stapled or re-interviewed for our current job we're certainly not going to be excited about it. Personally, I hope SWA stays far away.

 

[FlyinGuy]

I hope we (SWA) stay away from any merger. It will not be good for anyone! I do think that Kelly is different in his thinking. He is a revenue man and is not thinking about things like Herb would...we will see what happens.

 

[airline#5]

I would luv to see it happen. Aside from the pay-for-training requirement which I cannot afford as a FL FO, I can think of only good things about SWA. Jumpseating is an absolute pleasure, and much appreciated. Fair integration is my only concern. Pilots at FL are good guys. Exposing the FL stews to the "team" oriented SWA culture would no doubt be interesting, but not impossible with some necessary casualties of course. WTF, lets do it. NO HATS TOO!!! A LCC requiring hats...gay.

 

[curtis46]

All i need now,is you guys scaring those 717 capt about talk of merger with SW.that's when they start to jump ship and to come over this side of the house.adding a 737 type to someone resume is fine,but coming to the 737 because of talk of merger with MIDEX or SW are the wrong reasons.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

The "people at Midwest" were going to get a fair integration along with the promise of growth in their own home base. When SWA folks want us stapled or re-interviewed for our current job we're certainly not going to be excited about it. Personally, I hope SWA stays far away.

Depends on who's definition of "fair" you use...

Some of those "people at Midwest" didn't see it the way you did...

Good luck in any merger to all who get involved....it's gonna suck until we get a national list....buuuuut I digress...

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Go back and take a look at some of the previous threads that dealt with this subject. SWA pilots were advocating making us "reinterview" for our jobs after a merger, just stapling us, etc... We were talking about ratio or DOH integration with MEH. Big difference. I just get the feeling that we'll end up getting raped in a merger with SWA.

That's garbage...reinterviewing?? It would be a merger of equals...the lawsuits would be disgusting...

Good luck to all....

 

[GuppyWN]

It would be a merger of equals...the lawsuits would be disgusting...

Good luck to all....

Merger? I thought I read "aqusition" in the article.

Gup

 

[Kharma Police]

Merger? I thought I read "aqusition" in the article.

Gup

See what I mean.......

 

[PCL_128]

Merger? I thought I read "aqusition" in the article.

Gup

Well Lumberg, there ya go. A perfect example of the crap that we got from the SWA guys last time this was discussed. See why I want nothing to do with these people?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

See what I mean.......

Loud and Clear!!!

C'mon Gup......just so I'm clear, you guys want to bust out the stapler WHY??

An acquisition?? Is it cause the AT guys don't pass muster, or have the "luv"?? Seriously, WHY??

 

[Kharma Police]

Loud and Clear!!!

C'mon Gup......just so I'm clear, you guys want to bust out the stapler WHY??

An acquisition?? Is it cause the AT guys don't pass muster, or have the "luv"?? Seriously, WHY??

That's right, keep "AirTranz mines AirTranz"

 

[Benjamin Dover]

SW could easily muscle its way into any AT market and do fine.

ATL would not be so easy

 

[CF34-3B1]

I think the crews at AT would be a great asset to SWA, I know lots of AT guys and spent a lot of years in Da A-T-L working along side them, I don't think ANY SWA guy thinks the AT guys aren't worthy of a SWA job. If there WERE a SWA-AT deal (which I think is a long shot) the relative integration of the AT guys would have nothing to do with their "quality" it's just the way this business works. Unfair, but reality. Just ask the TWA guys.

 

[GuppyWN]

Dudes, come on. I've got nothing but LUV for you guys. Plus, I thought I'd add a little levity to the discussion.

Ever see the double pump fake? I think there's a pretty good chance that Mr. Kelly is lobbing his statements out there to force someone who doesn't have the kind of cash in the bank we do to make a move and further weaken themselves. That would set up all kinds of interesting senarios.

Either that or we just by Frontier and get it over with. Canada and Mexico with one check. Plus they're cool dudes. Don't take offense. I've got nothing against Da Tranny. I'm just not man enough to run wild in ATL like you guys.

Peace,
Gup

p.s. I'll let you guys decide on the seniority list. I don't have the effort to deal with that one. Either way is fine with me.

 

[Dude]

When Morris was purchased in 1994, the company wanted to interview all of those guys. SWAPA said NO! "We are taking all of them or none of them." They were stapled, but Captains were pay-protected. Pulling gear sucks but at least there was a job for them. By the way, the old lady at Morris was shopping the airline anyway and without Southwest, they would've all been on the street, most likely. Acquisitions suck for the acquired. Who knows what will happen, I just wanted to mention that SWAPA isn't the Devil incarnate.

 

[slaquer5]

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[jke406]

But I thought SWA was the happiest, kindest, most well-intentioned company in the world, and that anyone would give up their firstborn child to work there. SWA would NEVER do anything bad to anyone. Especially pilots.

At least, that's what I read on the SWA Pool thread.

 

[atafan]

AirTran buyout by SWA isn't going to happen.

GK mentioned that AirTran was the only airline with similiar costs, he didn't say he was looking at them as an acquisition target. GK mentioned AirTran, that should be the clue to everyone that he isn't planning on an acquisition. He would never have named them if he was serious about an acquisition.

All you LUV boys, just put your staple away for now and you AirTran boys put your knives and B737 bids aside for now.

Merry Christmas to All!

 

[SELFloadingCRGO]

But I thought SWA was the happiest, kindest, most well-intentioned company in the world, and that anyone would give up their firstborn child to work there. SWA would NEVER do anything bad to anyone. Especially pilots.

At least, that's what I read on the SWA Pool thread.

So when do you start?

SLC