SWA Can't Rescue AT Pilots Soon Enough!!!

[scoreboardII]

Parking, we have to pay for our own parking, like duh, that isn't right...

 

[jhill]

Wow! That is incredible! The lines at Airtran are close... but not quite as good.

The average lines at Airtran for January:

63 hours credit with 95 hours of block;
Average of 8 days off;

The good thing is that there are plenty of Reserve lines to choose from.

I think the 737 bid package shows 250 Total lines:

45 hard lines
50 CDO (Standup) lines
150 reserve lines

There are 5 lines that have nothing on them. Those lines are for people to come in and work a 12 hour "SecurityPatrol" rotation in the crewroom. This is neccessary with all the convicted felons that Airtran employs.

Good times ahead I am sure....

You laugh but this is EXACTLY the way it was/is at UPS except no CDOs

 

[jhill]

"Yes, they a lot of them from the West Coast "

GL you done been in tha ATL fo 2 long

 

[waveflyer]

Wait until you see what we b!tch about here at SWA.

A crappy profit based raise of only 3%.

A company paid for Telex ANR headset that nobody likes.

We even have guys b!tchin about having to pay $24 a month to support our fellow brothers who are unfortunately sitting on the sidelines with permanent disabilities.

Welcome aboard!

Love the b/tching about rampers in Vegas bc they don't sprint to the cross in 1000* heat -
Go sit in the penalty box at ohare for 45 minutes and our most thuggish OAK ramper will look like a god sent angel

 

[Lear70]

Have to say, the MCO lines are starting to look a little more like ATL lines. Uncommutable on one or both sides, a lot of crappy CAK/PIT/BWI overnights of 18-22 hours (WTHeck am I going to do in CAK with 22 hours?)

On the up-side, the average days off is 17 for January, and if I jump in quick enough after SAP 2 is done, I can usually dump half of my line (the really crappy trips) and re-build it out of open time as the month progresses.

On a serious note, question for the SWA guys and gals: I like a short leg followed by a long leg followed by 18-22 hours in LAS or SFO, 7 hours for the day, 20 hour 3-day trips or 26 hour 4 day trips (I have one starting on the 26th with 22 hours in LAS). I'm not all that fond of 4-5 leg days every day for that same 7 hours of block and a 12-13 hour overnight in MLI or LBB.

Do the 2-leg days with longer west-coast flights and longer blocks with long overnights exist in the SWA system and how senior do they go?

Thanks,

 

[scoreboardII]

depends, most don't bid for leg length, just days and am/pm split. So, 2 days do go more senior, but not for leg length.

Usually longhauls have 14hr ish overnights. Depends as it changes all the time, sometimes you get 20 hr in LIT for whatever reason, then you get 20 in BOS, then you get 14 in SEA, who knows why.

 

[Lear70]

Cool, thanks...

I try to not only max out my pay and days off, but also try to find fun trips that have a good amount of block during the day but have a lengthy overnight in places where I have friends or family and have fun while I'm on the road, since we spend so much time out there.

 

[ivauir]

On a serious note, question for the SWA guys and gals: I like a short leg followed by a long leg followed by 18-22 hours in LAS or SFO, 7 hours for the day, 20 hour 3-day trips or 26 hour 4 day trips (I have one starting on the 26th with 22 hours in LAS). I'm not all that fond of 4-5 leg days every day for that same 7 hours of block and a 12-13 hour overnight in MLI or LBB.

LAS is a crew base so don't count on any overnights there. I never cared for any of our hotels there anyway. No loss.

I bid a fair number of three day/6 leg (total) trips. They overnight anywhere from 14-19 hours and generally pay pretty well.

Do the 2-leg days with longer west-coast flights and longer blocks with long overnights exist in the SWA system and how senior do they go?

This kind of flying is usually interspersed with 6 leg a day trips, so if you are hard over for these, you'll probably have to trade to build the line you really want.

It seems to me that most people bid some combination of days off/pay and don't pay much attention to number of legs. I was able to hold fat long haul trips as a new hire, but no a whole line of them.

 

[Lear70]

Thanks, I appreciate the info! :beer:

 

[roughneck]

I like a ............... 20 hour 3-day trips or 26 hour 4 day trips

Our 3 days pay a minimum of 19.5 TFP and 4 days pay a minimum of 26 TFP. As far as leg length goes you will just have to shop around. We have any mix you would want.

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Our 3 days pay a minimum of 19.5 TFP and 4 days pay a minimum of 26 TFP. As far as leg length goes you will just have to shop around. We have any mix you would want.

The Fat 2 days are starting to show back up, Just did a two day out of MCO, went Mco-LAS- AUS Overnight, reversed it back the following day, Paid 18.6 Trips (x1.14 for hourly pay I believe). I am Junior and work 2 or 3 legs a day stuff often (that's what I prefer) but I've noticed that stuff starting on the East Coast generally starts back early from the west coast so long overnights are not happening (on the West Coast) BUT I work weekends because of "Juniority" and am done in Domicile fairly early from "PM's" on weekends (usually Saturday!)!

KBB

 

[27 driver]

Wait until you see what we b!tch about here at SWA.

A crappy profit based raise of only 3%.

A company paid for Telex ANR headset that nobody likes.

We even have guys b!tchin about having to pay $24 a month to support our fellow brothers who are unfortunately sitting on the sidelines with permanent disabilities.

Welcome aboard!

$24 a month to help your less fortunate brethren and paying for your own parking. Oh the insanity. Say it isn't so. :nuts:

 

[Tripower455]

The Fat 2 days are starting to show back up, Just did a two day out of MCO, went Mco-LAS- AUS Overnight, reversed it back the following day, Paid 18.6 Trips (x1.14 for hourly pay I believe). I am Junior and work 2 or 3 legs a day stuff often (that's what I prefer) but I've noticed that stuff starting on the East Coast generally starts back early from the west coast so long overnights are not happening (on the West Coast) BUT I work weekends because of "Juniority" and am done in Domicile fairly early from "PM's" on weekends (usually Saturday!)!

KBB

I did that one last month....... If it showed about 2 hours later, it'd be the PERFECT trip.....

 

[JumpJetter]

Cool, thanks...

I try to not only max out my pay and days off, but also try to find fun trips that have a good amount of block during the day but have a lengthy overnight in places where I have friends or family and have fun while I'm on the road, since we spend so much time out there.

You might be the most annoying AT thug on this board

 

[Lear70]

You might be the most annoying AT thug on this board

Opinions vary...

Merry Christmas to you, and thanks to all for the info on your trips!