Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

SWA/ATA codeshare ending?

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web
I still think that ATA and SWA will continue to EVOLVE their relationship. I know that things are tough for you guys and I would hate to go to work each day with the uncertianty that you guys have to. With the way SWA is moving lately, it would not surprise me if ATA was doing overseas and SWA domestic with a future full merger in the cards.

That is just one guys speculation....good luck to you guys no matter what happens.
 
"You guys were bankrupt. At least now you have a healthy airline to come back to."

"You guys would have been here if you could have gotten hired here."

"This is just survival of the fittest."

"Hey, your management did this to you."

"Hey, our management did this to you. The pilot group had nothing to say about it."

"This was an asset acquisition, not a merger."

"Two great airlines. One great future.'

Wait! This thread IS about the TWA/AA merger, right?

What?! It's about SWA/ATA? Oh, sorry, I guess I just got confused...

What's WITH those airlines from the DFW area? :rolleyes: TC
 
FlyinGuy said:
I still think that ATA and SWA will continue to EVOLVE their relationship. I know that things are tough for you guys and I would hate to go to work each day with the uncertianty that you guys have to. With the way SWA is moving lately, it would not surprise me if ATA was doing overseas and SWA domestic with a future full merger in the cards.

That is just one guys speculation....good luck to you guys no matter what happens.

Right, SWA pilots will just sit idly by enjoying their 737 flying with layovers in lovely OMA and OKC while ATA pilots, being paid about 50% less of course, are flying 757s overseas and enjoying layovers in London, Madrid, Paris, etc etc etc.
 
and enjoying layovers in London, Madrid, Paris, etc etc etc.

You obviously don't know much about ATA.

Domestic layovers: DFW, DCA, LGA, maybe ONT.

Extra-domestic: OGG, HNL. OK, I grant you this is pretty good.

Military: Japan, can't recall where. Could be Iwakuni, Misawa, or Tokyo. SEA. BUD, which is good when it ain't cold, I hear. SNN, this one's good. KWI, sometimes. Not very frequently. Yes, that's Kuwait.

That's it. Way down from what it used to be.

Ill trade ya.
 
Dash Power said:
That is well said. And thank you for trying to make my job easier.

And I do the same for you. Keep up the good work.

Just to be clear, we are only talking about the people we ALL know about. None others. Only one here and there. Most all make my job soooo easy.

Thanks. And you too.

And yes, the ones we all know about. Most all make this job so much fun. Its amazing how far a little mutual respect and consideration goes.
 
SWAdude said:
Its amazing how far a little mutual respect and consideration goes.

I respect ya Dude, you can be my wingman anytime, I mean Captain.
 
canyonblue said:
I respect ya Dude, you can be my wingman anytime, I mean Captain.

No..you can be mine!

Wasn't that in a movie somewhere?

Now go back and do some of that pilot sh!t Canyon.
 
You guys can both pull gear for me anytime!
 
The whole thing was simple. Had ATA gone chapter 7, MDW gates would have gone up for bid and there is no way the City of Chicago would have sold them all to SWA. So they get into the loan sharking business. Here's some money, pay us back at the end of the month. Don't have the money? no problem, we'll just take one of your gates as payment. Not enough to meet the vic next month? No problem, we'll just take another gate. All your gates are gone? Well, we'll sell the stock and you can owe someone else.
You've already got a deal worked out with AWA? A deal that integrates the list and the employees keep their jobs? Well, we'll place a little call to Boeing and see how they feel about AWA's plans for the ATA leases. Hmmm, imagine that, they didn't like your plan as much as you thought they would. Don't worry, we'll make the whole thing easier by installing a puppet to be your new CEO, a man who couldn't possibly have anything other than the best interests of ATA at heart.

Big business in the new millenium. Find a way to get around the cumbersome shackels of a free marketplace and get 14? gates at MDW without having to bother with bids and anti-trust issues.

With any luck, when the violation is finally complete, ATA will be able to limp back to some charter/military work.

There is a lot of talk about the TWA/AA similarities. There is one major difference, however. TWA guys have an AA number and will be recalled someday.
 
Hal:

I was talking aobut how it would go if IF IF IF there was to be a future where ATA did international stuff all over for SWA, not what it is like now.

FlyinGuy:
I left that part out because there is no way a full merger will happen.
 

Latest resources

Back
Top Bottom