SWA/AT future at Risk

[General Lee]

You delta foucks have retirements. That's why you are screaming arbitration for us. You just want us and AT to fail. Sorry! I don't think this deal is any thing like yours. You guys are just scared. Its ok. I hope the AT guys get what they feel is fair. When it is all over, they will have the tools to kick the crap out of delta. Good luck in Atlanta.

The NW side has retirements, and most of those guys that will leave in the next 5 or 10 years have good pensions. The DL side does not have a pension (rather a DC fund currently), and that means most will stay longer. And why would we be scared? We deal with SWA on a regular basis, and we also know that to make AT into SWA, it will COST YOU BIG TIME. What does that mean? Higher fares, even in ATL. Your merger cost you over $1 billion, and paying AT employees your GREAT rates will cost even more. Then you are taking away the business class section on AT's planes, which helps us again. The XM radio deal on AT was nice, and that also will be gone. What a shame. You also will have little room to grow due to lack of gates in ATL, and if you really think you can do 15 or 20 min turns in ATL, then you really don't know what you are talking about. But, as long as you pay the AT people your same rates, I bet they will put in the effort. If you don't, well, it will be a different story. Good luck and I can't wait to see how it turns out. Oh wait, I will be the guy leaving the area for Europe and points way South. Tell me how it turns out, please.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[texman]

Gen, per GK the ticket prices will drop 50% in ATL. Quit trying to sell arbitration to both sides. I see what you are trying to do. Do you know for sure it is going to arbitration? Are cost will go down once growth starts. Not from a cocky stand point but this is and will not be like nwa and dal. Totaly different situation.

 

[Lear70]

If you think your 5 year Captains deserve a spot ahead of our native 11 year FO's you're crazy as hell.

That includes your November 2001 hires Ty.

Gup

We have 5 year Captains? Who knew?

 

[redflyer65]

Gen, you have no fight. Your post are one of frustration and self pain felt by your arbitration award. Please stop the self BS.

Great post.

 

[The Prussian]

I don't think "precedent" plays a role. I think every SLI is different.

But then again, precedent, in the case of the Nic decision, may play a huge role in how it didn't work...

and yes, I agree that every SLI is very different...

 

[On Your Six]

But then again, precedent, in the case of the Nic decision, may play a huge role in how it didn't work...

and yes, I agree that every SLI is very different...

One thing is also clear with arbitration, which is there will be both SWA and Airtran pilots at the combined bottom of the list, unless there are any newhires since the merger announcement. They would be stapled. There is plenty of precedent for that. That is something you guys are going to have to accept.


OYS