SWA - AAI question

[GuppyWN]

Was that before or after their SLI?

Gup

 

[Wesb737fo]

What chest pounding? Most Citrus guys don't even post anymore. You seem really angry, insulting your future co-workers with every post. I'm sure when the legacy boys were calling SWA the B team 10-15 years ago, you didn't like it. I'm glad the vast majority of SWA guys I know are top notch, you'll see the same from the AT pilots if you give us a chance. Life is too short...

exactly!

 

[redflyer65]

"Hey Redflyer (Shooter McGavern), look who's closer......"

---General Lee (Happy Gilmore)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Hey General,

I know your a smart guy, so just to make sure..just because it's in the FA contract do you really think that means its going to happen soon? Really?

Redeyes via codeshare? Yea, that's real close to happening as well.

Now back to my sundae!

 

[flynvixen]

What chest pounding? Most Citrus guys don't even post anymore. You seem really angry, insulting your future co-workers with every post. I'm sure when the legacy boys were calling SWA the B team 10-15 years ago, you didn't like it. I'm glad the vast majority of SWA guys I know are top notch, you'll see the same from the AT pilots if you give us a chance. Life is too short...

I look forward to working and flying with the top notch Citrus guys, and dont care one bit what the "legacy tools" were saying about us back in the hay day of ALPA's destruction of the industry. I do fear the top notch citrus guys will bring with them a bunch of malcontents that will not be happy with the big pay raise and cry about loosing their seat ect ect ect ect . If the left seat is so important to you why did you leave the commuter job you had to go to Citrus ????

I cant wait to hear the talking points, lawyer double speak on why you should get a piece of our seniority after getting the pay raise and all else you are getting in this deal. What do we get in this deal and please dont tell me Atlanta ?? I dont give at rats A$$ about Atlanta. ALPA has told you that Bond Makaskill will save your bacon and get you the world you do not deserve. The law, if it is even applicable in this case, also says that no side shall gain a wind fall !! So that being said after you guys get the big pay raise, better work rules, career expectations ect ect ect ect you think your going to get into our seniority ???? WTFO. The answer is no your not. Just because your the one being aquired dosent mean you get all the good things and we get nothing.

So you hard core ALPA koolaid drinkers that keep telling each other that you are going to tell us how its going to be, have a rude awaking coming. Things are not going to go all your way and the vast majority of you will end up at the bottom of our list without 737 types or 1000 PIC turbine as it should be.

I dont think the company really wants your RJ's, so in the end I think the RJ's and the pilots will be sent packing and whats left will be stapled to our list. That is still a much better deal than you were getting from Air Tran now, but you WILL have to learn the FO flows and call outs which will be a bitter pill to swallow for some of you guys I am sure.

Now you guys can throw rocks and insults at me all day long but you know whats coming and you know what I say is spot on. I also know that you guys will keep on telling each other that you hold all the cards and will tell us how its going to go ect ect ect ect........all the while bowing to the ALPA gods. Ask the boys over at United (the brain surgens of the industry, their words not mine), or maybe the professionals over at Delta or the guys at North West how ALPA took care of them ??

In the end ALPA talks a big talk but is unable to deliver the goods. You citrus guys were not ALPA long enough or were not raped long enough for big real airline dues to warrant real backing by the ALPA job killing machine so dont hold your breath on ALPA saving your citrus bacon.

We have the hammer over you guys and you just dont know or see it yet but you will soon I promise, think holding company, long term fence, or back room deal to sell your RJ's to get around BM

I look forward to flying with the citrus guys as long as they come over thankful to be on the winning team and dont complain about the fact they were unable to beat a Southwest guy out of his or her seniority.

I know ALPA has told you that you are entilted to a piece of whats ours but the fact is you are not and I am confedent the court will rule with us on this one given all that you guys are already getting. Unfortunetly I know how ALPA works and I am sure they will keep the fight going until a bunch of you guys are on the street and a bunch of us are so fired up that we cant drink a beer with you on an overnight.

With all that said I am going to bed and will sleep well knowing that the table has been set for this aquestion a long time ago and our ducks are in a row and our lawyers are ready for the upcoming battle. ALPA and the citrus MEC can dream and talk all they want, but they know whats coming and are just delaying the inevitable. So come on over guys and lets get this party started I look forward to having you in the right seat and showing you how Southwest gets the work done. Please forgive my spelling errors as I am new to this and havent found the spell check feature ..........Cheers Vato's

 

[JR Man]

Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[flynvixen]

What? If Delta somehow gets the AT 717s then we will get those AT pilots too? If so, STAPLE UM......uh, wait, I mean let it go through arbitration and accept whatever outcome is produced.........that's better....



Bye Bye---General Lee

Right lets just all hold hands and let it go through arbitration and accept whatever outcome is produced......that's better .........for who ???? just ask the guys at America West how that all worked out for them ?? I cant wait to see the citrus guys accept whatever outcome is produced when it doesnt work out the way ALPA said it would. It all sounds so nice and I am sure the citrus guys will just take what the arbitrator says and come over here without a fight. You know as well as I do that unless the Southwest guys give up a bunch of seniority and take nothing for the deal the citrus guys will fight like the US Air tools did. They should take the staple and be thankful for the pay raise and all else they are getting, what are we getting ??? I tell you what we are getting for the most part a bunch of guys that will complain that they were unable to cheat a Southwest guy out of his seniority.

 

[humveedriver]

My condolences to those who have to fly with certain bitter, angry people.

 

[flynvixen]

General Lee

If Delta gets the citrus RJ's it means Southwest wont have to take the pilots and then we are taking less than 49% of the airline thus Bond Makaskill wont be a player. I think that will be one of several hammers that GK will have over the citrus MEC when they decide to not play nice with SWAPA and I am sure they are already planning to not play nice with SWAPA. I believe the foot dragging and game playing has already started, fueled most likely by their senior guys that find the big pay raise, quality of life improvements, better career expectations ect ect ect ect not enough. They wont rest or agree to anything until they get to cheat a Southwest guy or of his or her seniority. I think the arbitrator will see that the citrus guys are getting plenty and will not allow our guys to be cheated out of our seniority. Could take years I hope

Cheers Vato's

 

[flynvixen]

My condolences to those who have to fly with certain bitter, angry people.

Let me get this straight we are bitter because we wont give up everything the citrus guys want and take nothing for ourselves ??WTFO They are getting a world class deal right now but they want more and if they get more we get nothing and we should not be bitter ??? the citrus guys should be thankful they are getting what they are getting and not be bitter. Or is it all about making them happy at all cost ??? you tell me why giving up seniority to make them happy should make me not bitter ??? the fact that we are even talking about a SLI is BS unless it is a staple for them, even with a staple they will be making way more money than they were at AT.

 

[Kharma Police]

Let me get this straight we are bitter because we wont give up everything the citrus guys want and take nothing for ourselves ??WTFO They are getting a world class deal right now but they want more and if they get more we get nothing and we should not be bitter ??? the citrus guys should be thankful they are getting what they are getting and not be bitter. Or is it all about making them happy at all cost ??? you tell me why giving up seniority to make them happy should make me not bitter ??? the fact that we are even talking about a SLI is BS unless it is a staple for them, even with a staple they will be making way more money than they were at AT.

Since you are "new" to this board, you are a little late in the game with your complaints, all of the stuff you are spouting off about has been covered ad nauseam. I've noticed that most of the SWA fire breathers like you have followed the Kübler-Ross model or 5 stages of grief. You are obviously on Stage 2 which is anger. Check back with us when you get to Stage 5 which is acceptance. Good luck!