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[The_Russian]

What's the confusion? Sober up, flynqueers doesn't work at SWA, he wants to send information to people at SWA to ruin this unknown person's chances of getting hired there.

Never mind that SWA has the ability to screen the guy with their own testing and never mind that in training he could get screened out and never mind that the guy has to finish IOE.

It's not a safety issue...if it was a flight safety issue, how come the guy flynqueers was talking about was safe enough to work at his operator?

Ok buddy. I get it now. I had some trouble understanding this guys intent. Yeah, thats crap. What a jerk. BTW I really didn't read what he had to say. Guilty as charged. I stand by my first post, but when its "in house". It isn't right to "blacklist" someone at another carrier they are appying for. I'm sure SWA will take care of that guy. If he's a bad stick or has a bad attitude, they will let him know. Sorry for the confusion. Ok, this time I'm going to bed!

 

[FN FAL]

Ok buddy. I get it now. I had some trouble understanding this guys intent. Yeah, thats crap. What a jerk. BTW I really didn't read what he had to say. Guilty as charged. I stand by my first post, but when its "in house". It isn't right to "blacklist" someone at another carrier they are appying for. I'm sure SWA will take care of that guy. If he's a bad stick or has a bad attitude, they will let him know. Sorry for the confusion. Ok, this time I'm going to bed!

Didn't mean to jump your case...but logic has it that if the applicant was safe enough to fly at the complainer's operation, then who the hell is the complainer? Just another guy that works at an unsafe operation.

"Jee, we got this guy that works HERE, that's unsafe and we don't like him going to a GOOD place to fly, so the rest of us unsafe pilots at this unsafe operation want to wreck it for this guy!"

It's "crab pot" theory. One of the crabs was going to escape the crab pot and the other crabs didn't like it.

If lear was woried about safety of flight, he'd pull HIS mask off...because an accused person has a right to face his accusers in this country.

 

[gearjockey]

Would you like to be sitting in the back of a B737 with a guy in the cockpit that has no clue on what to do in an emergency situation? Flynlears

Don't they require a 737 type rating over there? I'm sure he'll know what he's doing (for a while, at least). I'm sure he can try to B.S. the H.R. but they've been doing this a while so they just might pick up on this guys disposition. You speak as if you've never served time swingin' the gear? Any experiences you'd care to relate to us bout' when you were the right hand man and some CA gave you static? Sometimes these anecdotes help us FO's hear where you're coming from instead of dismissing the sanctimony.

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[aussiefly]

So Flynlears no longer works with this guy therefore there is no longer a professional requirement to report him as a safety risk to his CP, if indeed he ever was.

Seems to me that this is being perpetrated out of spite regarding personal differences.

IMHO that makes YOU 'Flynlears' an absolute maggot.

What goes around comes around in this industry. Who knows, in a few years time you might be furloughed and then applying for a job at Southwest with this guy above you int he seniority rank. Good luck getting on.

I bet you make friends wherever you go lol.

Maggot

 

[AeroDork]

...once you get to the level of flying that I am at.

Wow! Better go ahead and sew on that 5th and 6th stripe on your shoulders.

Lear Wanna Be: I may not be smart enough to add this thread to the majors list, but at 8000 hours, I was flying as a captain in lears….

Well I was at 2400 and I hope by the time I have 8000 I've moved beyond being a super duper huge ego six stripe backstabbing bastard Lear Captain.

This industry's full of scumbags and I think we just found their leader.

 

[ultrarunner]

what process can I do to warn you and your colleagues of this First Officer Candidate?

I would think that SWA knows a think or two about screening pilot applicants. If what you say is true, then s/he won't pass the SWA A$$hole test, and you can sleep better at night, hows that!?

 

[ultrarunner]

Would you like to be sitting in the back of a B737 with a guy in the cockpit that has no clue on what to do in an emergency situation

For christ fuking sake. If this person is as bad as you say, they won't pass a PC, let alone a type ride.

Give it a rest!

 

[flyboyike]

This brings up a bigger issue. I would imagine various airlines do have blacklists that may or may not be on paper. How does one get on such a list and how does one get off one (if at all)? I know that we're a relatively small community and word does travel around, but we're not that small. For instance, the flight school I went to had two locations with a total of probably about 350 or so students. I was there for over four years and probably only knew about 25 students at any given time. My point is that it would be fairly hard to know any "hard" facts about an applicant unless they're someone you personally know. As for former employers, my current company has a very hard policy to not answer questions beyound whether the person was, in fact, employed here and for how long. Anything else would require a subpoena or something of that sort. Even a PRIA form probably won't tell you all that much.

It would seem to me that you can get "blacklisted" for liking a different sports team than someone who has some pull with regards to said blacklist. I suppose, this is really nothing new, this business has always worked more on personal connections than on merit. We can debate if that's good or bad, but I think most of us will agree that it is so.

 

[FN FAL]

I suppose, this is really nothing new, this business has always worked more on personal connections than on merit. We can debate if that's good or bad, but I think most of us will agree that it is so.

My instructor at regional initial training was pacing the classroom ranting about how they could make life miserable for us at the "big guys" because they "knew" people. People like that need to be stabbed in the eye with an ice pick or pushed down a ladder.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Flyn lears, just think if UAL had a black list like that......a lot of good GUYS would be flying there today instead of getting the ole, "we found someone else more qualified than you" letter. A COMPETENT interview board should be able to figure out if someone is going to workout for them or not. And if they slip through the cracks there, any weakness will show up in training and IOE.

My question to you is this.....if the person gets turned down at SWA, and then tries to get hired at the regionals or some 135 outfit, where are you going to stop with ratting this person out? Or will it be your duty to rat this individual out where ever he/she goes? Just a thought...