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There were so many guys blasting flynlears it just sounded to me like they were FO's trying to not get ratted on. If I stepped on any "captain's" toes, I'm sorry.
I suppose I shouldn't have said prospective employers ALWAYS ask if you would be rehired. I do know for a fact that one major ALWAYS asks that question for the reason stated. I've heard of it being used in several other places. I've used it a few times myself, as well as many of the questions mentioned above. And yes, sometimes you can find out a lot about the former employer too.
I never said I agreed with what flynlears wants to do. I was making a comment to everybody that immediately wanted to lynch him.
I think I need to get a life and stop fooling around on this board. There's too many 5 year olds here.
I suppose I shouldn't have said prospective employers ALWAYS ask if you would be rehired. I do know for a fact that one major ALWAYS asks that question for the reason stated. I've heard of it being used in several other places. I've used it a few times myself, as well as many of the questions mentioned above. And yes, sometimes you can find out a lot about the former employer too.
I never said I agreed with what flynlears wants to do. I was making a comment to everybody that immediately wanted to lynch him.
I think I need to get a life and stop fooling around on this board. There's too many 5 year olds here.
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As I sit here and laugh at some of your responses, I realize how messed up some of you First Officers really are! First of all, jumping to conclusions isn’t the smartest thing to do in the cockpit and real world. Most of you are jumping to conclusions and assuming I am just an as?hole out to get someone. Not one of you asked for a reason why I would be going out of my way to do this. Safety could be a factor!
It doesn’t bother me of the immature names and the rude comments that you are creating. What bothers me is having a first officer (co-captain, or captain) sitting beside me that has no clue what to do in an emergency situation (Memory items). Would you like to be sitting in the back of a B737 with a guy in the cockpit that has no clue on what to do in an emergency situation? Not only having a first officer sitting beside you that is clueless, but also has an attitude problem is worse!
Many times I asked myself maybe it was the captain (me) that was the problem. But after talking with other people that worked and works with this guy, I realized it wasn’t me that was the problem. Companies don’t make their employees resign because of being great employees!
I sit and chuckle as most of you FO’s out there will realize what I am talking about once you get to the level of flying that I am at. Don’t come to me and bitch about an FO because of his attitude, do something about it! I am being criticized for doing something about it.
Coloneldan: I have to agree with you, I too should be out doing something else besides posting something on this list.
Lear Wanna Be: I may not be smart enough to add this thread to the majors list, but at 8000 hours, I was flying as a captain in lears….not trying to be a wanna be. Are you one of those First Officers that I am talking about?
Before I finish this I would like to enlighten ALL of YOU:
WHY WOULD SOUTHWEST HAVE THIS BLACKLIST (comment sheet) FOR NEW HIRE CANDIDATES?
They don’t have it posted to waste time…..they do it to weed out all of the a??holes.
Although Southwest Airlines are competition to us, I do have to say that they do have good respectable employees and could this blacklist be the reasoning?
To all of you that are sending me your positive comments and the information via private message, I appreciate that. I understand why you would not post anything as you would get blasted like I did. Hats off to you and if you are looking to fly an Airbus...give me a shout!
It doesn’t bother me of the immature names and the rude comments that you are creating. What bothers me is having a first officer (co-captain, or captain) sitting beside me that has no clue what to do in an emergency situation (Memory items). Would you like to be sitting in the back of a B737 with a guy in the cockpit that has no clue on what to do in an emergency situation? Not only having a first officer sitting beside you that is clueless, but also has an attitude problem is worse!
Many times I asked myself maybe it was the captain (me) that was the problem. But after talking with other people that worked and works with this guy, I realized it wasn’t me that was the problem. Companies don’t make their employees resign because of being great employees!
I sit and chuckle as most of you FO’s out there will realize what I am talking about once you get to the level of flying that I am at. Don’t come to me and bitch about an FO because of his attitude, do something about it! I am being criticized for doing something about it.
Coloneldan: I have to agree with you, I too should be out doing something else besides posting something on this list.
Lear Wanna Be: I may not be smart enough to add this thread to the majors list, but at 8000 hours, I was flying as a captain in lears….not trying to be a wanna be. Are you one of those First Officers that I am talking about?
Before I finish this I would like to enlighten ALL of YOU:
WHY WOULD SOUTHWEST HAVE THIS BLACKLIST (comment sheet) FOR NEW HIRE CANDIDATES?
They don’t have it posted to waste time…..they do it to weed out all of the a??holes.
Although Southwest Airlines are competition to us, I do have to say that they do have good respectable employees and could this blacklist be the reasoning?
To all of you that are sending me your positive comments and the information via private message, I appreciate that. I understand why you would not post anything as you would get blasted like I did. Hats off to you and if you are looking to fly an Airbus...give me a shout!
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Well....
If it is a safety issue then do it. It is anyones RESPONSIBILITY as a crewmember to report unsafe actions of another pilot. I have reported many a pilot at many different jobs I have had. It is required of you to no longer allow someone to be in the front of an aircraft that is unsafe. Ask yourself, would you let your family fly with this guy in the cockpit? That is enough for me. I am not proud to sign a fellow pilots death warrant. However, it is a professional responsibility that I have as a Captain and a pilot. Especially since most of us fly 121.
The other side of the story is that maybe you just dont get along with the guy. Well, thats your problem then. No one should rat out someone for behavioral bs or if you dont get along. No one should be blacklisted for anything that happens outside the cockpit and the business that pertains to it.
We all have a responsibility to our peers to act professionally at all times. We have to be able to do the job. The day you can't do the job is the day you need to step away from this business. If you don't step down on your own someone may help you out with it.
Just my .02c
If it is a safety issue then do it. It is anyones RESPONSIBILITY as a crewmember to report unsafe actions of another pilot. I have reported many a pilot at many different jobs I have had. It is required of you to no longer allow someone to be in the front of an aircraft that is unsafe. Ask yourself, would you let your family fly with this guy in the cockpit? That is enough for me. I am not proud to sign a fellow pilots death warrant. However, it is a professional responsibility that I have as a Captain and a pilot. Especially since most of us fly 121.
The other side of the story is that maybe you just dont get along with the guy. Well, thats your problem then. No one should rat out someone for behavioral bs or if you dont get along. No one should be blacklisted for anything that happens outside the cockpit and the business that pertains to it.
We all have a responsibility to our peers to act professionally at all times. We have to be able to do the job. The day you can't do the job is the day you need to step away from this business. If you don't step down on your own someone may help you out with it.
Just my .02c
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What's the confusion? Sober up, flynqueers doesn't work at SWA, he wants to send information to people at SWA to ruin this unknown person's chances of getting hired there.The_Russian said:
Never mind that SWA has the ability to screen the guy with their own testing and never mind that in training he could get screened out and never mind that the guy has to finish IOE.
It's not a safety issue...if it was a flight safety issue, how come the guy flynqueers was talking about was safe enough to work at his operator?
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