SureCheck or CheckMate checklists?

[Jedi_Cheese]

squale, one other thing. You are coming to the boards here to awnser alot of questions. Yes, we are a resource, but you shouldn't rely on us for everything.

Did you ask your CFI which one he/she perfers? What about some other students you may have met when doing postflight/preflight?

Many of the best resources that I know of for flying are out at the airport. I know all the CFI's by face and about half by name. I chat with the other pilots quite a bit and thus can get info about the weather from people that just flew in the air and what is 'quasi' working in each aircraft.

Just saying hi and talking about the weather, chiming in about what everyone is talking about, or asking a few questions like the ones you are putting up here is enough to gain a few friends (don't ask the compass in the car question - that was just stupid). Maybe show up 10 minutes early to each lesson and chat with whoever happens to be around (not to mention that your CFI will be impressed with your dedication).

 

[dmspilot00]

The engine upgrade on the 172N's doesn't up the engine HP at all. It up's the weight to 2400 (from 2300), and removes the 40 degree flaps. It also changes the reccomended shortfield takeoff from a 0 degree to a 10 degree (optional) but 5kts slower takeoff speed else you don't get any benefit.

The engine upgrade changes it from a O-320-H*** to a O-320-D.

Huh? Then why is it called a 180HP conversion? Isn't it up to the owner of the aircraft what type of engine he/she puts in his airplane? I don't understand.

 

[Jedi_Cheese]

I have no clue why it is called the 180HP conversion but the 172's that I fly have the conversion and didn't gain a single HP. I didn't even know about the conversion until today when waiting for fuel my CFI started talking about flaps and takeoff procedure.

Had to wait half an hour for fuel and so we ramp checked a few 172s for documents.

 

[dmspilot00]

I have no clue why it is called the 180HP conversion but the 172's that I fly have the conversion and didn't gain a single HP.

Perhaps it is a different conversion.

 

[AV1ATRX]

Back to SureCheck or the CheckMate...

I have used both. I liked the SureCheck, but not the other. The SureCheck has good information, but it fell apart too soon for what it costs. I agree with the other posts about making copies of the one from the plane, though. You're already used to that one, and it's much cheaper.

 

[pilotman2105]

Squale,
Go to the pilot shop at your airport and buy one of everything. Read it all, then get back to us. ;-) That includes the Information Manual for the airplanes you fly now, and all airplanes that you ever plan on flying.

 

[100LL... Again!]

Make your own - commercially produced checklists have WAY too many items on them.

Put on the items that will kill you frst, add items that you are likely to forget, then laminate!

 

[DenverDude2002]

My CFI took a combination of different checklists for our plane (1976 Piper Archer 2) and made a very impressive thorough checklist thats a lot better than the base one in the POH. He put it in those sheet protectors you use in 3 ring binders, made it so it can fold is 1/2, and it fits perfectly in my kneeboard, and has the V speeds and emergency procedures on the back of it.

I just ordered a PIM from Essco Aircraft. My CFI recommended it. Anyone ever seen these before? It was only 16 bucks so I couldnt beat the price.

As far as Cessna 172s go, I'm a Piper man, dont know much about the cessnas now.

 

[huncowboy]

Re: Re: SureCheck or CheckMate checklists?

Just like chawbien said, you'll memorize the checklist soon enough, but if it's really bothering you, take the one you have now, type it out on your computer, print it, and go to Kinko's and have it laminated. It won't matter then what you get on it, and it won't fall apart....

I would go as far as buy your own laminator. Through your training you will go through at least 3 different planes but probably more. The price of the checklists can get you a laminator, which is useful anyways not just for aviation checklists.

Especially when in training it is always great to do you personal checklist, by that I mean adding stuff ONLY When I was going for the PPL I had (with ink, no laminator at that time for me) things like "open flight plan" after the cruise checklist so I wouldn't forget opening it on the ride; another item was "map on lap" and "passenger brief" when I kept forgetting to start time after being cleared “start clock moron” became another item etc… plus other stuff. When you are a student pilot even a little help can mean a lot. I had the local frequencies on a paper, the complete departure brief, the instrument check... You can even make your personal dorky memory card for the light signals.\

Of course after a while you will learn all of this anyways and it will take an extra effort just to make sure that you actually read the items on the list and not just looking at them.

BTW: I think this is your 3rd or 4th post I have seen from you on some important(?) item to buy... nothing wrong with enthusiasm but most will tell you here that most of the _crap we've all bought at some point have never been used. I stand buy the laminator, but other than that save the dough and take your GF out for dinner.