Study: Union Membership Lower IQ's

[fischman]

OK DOOKER,



This is how Union Pilots study Calculus. Study this Calculus lesson and write a short report on it....

Calculus For Union PILOTS- VIDEO​

If you pass I will recommend Differential Equation or Complex Variables lessons next.

This is train to proficiency. If you don't pass I am afraid you cannot move on to the next lesson and must repeatedly study this one until you do.

I need retraining.

 

[fischman]

Damn! It didn't take.

I need to study.

 

[Dooker]

OK DOOKER,



This is how Union Pilots study Calculus. Study this Calculus lesson and write a short report on it....

Calculus For Union PILOTS- VIDEO​

If you pass I will recommend Differential Equation or Complex Variables lessons next.

This is train to proficiency. If you don't pass I am afraid you cannot move on to the next lesson and must repeatedly study this one until you do.

Study: Pilots are Horndogs

 

[FamilyGuy]

FG, everyone seems to have an opinion about unions. And really, who's to say who's right? Obviously, nothing anyone says here, or anywhere else, will change your mind.
And based on my experience with unions (so far, NJA is the only union I've ever been a part of) I'm thinking they aren't so bad. So nothing you, or anyone else, says is going to change my mind.

That's fine.

But here's a question for that really big brain of yours: In spite of what we see in the news about our economy, our country still enjoys one of the highest standards of living in the world. Translation: people are still making good wages and decent benefits (although that is slowly being eroded and becoming of greater concern for the average working American). So my question is, what, in your opinion, effect have unions had on our country's prosperity and standard of living? Do you think we'd be doing this well without them? Or worse? Maybe better? Is it possible they've helped raise the standards? (ala the CS and Flex raises that 'coincidentally' happened shortly after our contract ratification).

realityman - first of all, excellent post. Your response was lucid, well reasoned and articulated, and free of taunts and profanity. Keep that up and you'll get banned from this site.

In my opinion, unions in the U.S. served a purpose which was largely fulfilled decades ago. They've since been supplanted by laws and government regulation. With that in mind, they had a positive impact on quality of life and prosperity, but much like the buggy whip, phonographs, videotapes, floppy discs, the penny, travel agencies, checks, and record stores (all of which had a positive impact at some point in time but are obsolete now) their useful life expired years ago. The fact that unions in the U.S. have been in decline for 40 years just serves to confirm this completed purpose.

Why did labor unions come to exist? Was it a bunch of overpaid, greedy factory workers just trying to put the screws to their companies? Did it have anything to do with the fact that the average working American family used to have to send their KIDS to work in the factories just to make ends meet?

Your comment here implies that unions came to exist due to abuses and excesses by companies. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Unions in the U.S. were actually first formed by skilled tradesmen who enjoyed a good standard of living, rather than by exploited factory workers. Even pro-union websites confirm this for you:

http://www.ilwu19.com/edu/reasons.htm

PS- Just to keep this thread at least a little on track, I have routinely scored well over 130 on different IQ tests. And who the heck cares?! High IQ's don't mean you know how to use that intelligence (ie: domiciles were to allow more direct airlining. Doh!)

Agreed. High intelligence doesn't mean you know how to use that intelligence effectively, or that highly intelligent people will make good leaders. (There was actually an interesting piece about high intelligence hurting people's ability to lead in today's wall street journal, which you can find on page B13)

I responded to gunfyters post simply because of the arrogance of his original statement and to remind him that no matter how good you are, there is always someone better out there.

 

[FamilyGuy]

FamilyGuy.... I challenged DOOKER. Not everyone on the board. The only score I am interested in is His.

But for you ... The test I want to take is the College Board Physics Achievement test or the math portion of the SATs. $100 a point on the raw score.

Which test do you choose?

Gun - why limit it to just math? Don't you believe in the value of a well rounded education?

Flylow has already demonstrated the value of reading comprehension.

 

[gunfyter]

Gun - why limit it to just math? Don't you believe in the value of a well rounded education?

Flylow has already demonstrated the value of reading comprehension.

Because I am a Math guy... and I know I can't lose any money taking a math test.

But it doesn't matter anyway unless you have resigned your seniority number?

 

[acaTerry]

Good post, Terry. What is it they say about lies and statistics?

Lies? I'd tell you but it may not be true!:laugh:

 

[pilotpat]

Wherever there are possible abuses to a worker's QOL, work conditions, etc., you may find a union. The union has not, IMO, served its purpose in totality one bit. Unions like IBT, AFL-CIO, NYSUT...they'll always be around no matter what your personal opinion of unions is. Like it or not - they help millions of working Americans continue working in better conditions.

 

[GVFlyer]

I will bet $100 a point my IQ is higher than yours.

A Marine helicopter pilot - that should be an easy bet!


Relax....just yanking your lanyard, Guns.


Congratulations on your making it into the Falcon. That in itself should be a pretty good QOL improvement.


GV

 

[gunfyter]

A Marine helicopter pilot - that should be an easy bet!


Relax....just yanking your lanyard, Guns.


GV

You would think.... But how many people can really say they understand helicopter aerodynamics? But still my application for Pax River was not approved.