Students doing a before landing checklist

[Kream926]

ill look for it

 

[jknight8907]

I don't teach, but I do a check before turning final no matter how many circuits I've made that day.

"3-green and brakes, inboard tanks, pumps on, mixtures set, props forward, flaps down, trim set, runway clear"

 

[Huggyu2]

Absolutely: if the student doesn't, I hammer them. If they still don't, they get to repeat the ride since it will be "Unsat".

 

[minitour]

My biggest problem with flying is not using the checklist enough.

My CFI stresses nothing more than using the checklist..climb, cruise, descent, landing checklist...and with the instrument training we're always up and down.

My biggest flaw...

ditto...now that I'm moving into the CFI stuff though, I'm trying to think of the example I want to set for my students.

Just think if you were flying with a student pilot one day and you didn't use the checklist and he said "oh well __ pilot doesn't use one, so I only need to do it for the training and then I'm done".

I know it sucks, but pull it out and do it. Remember, it's a "checklist" not a "to do" list...do it, then check with the list to make sure. They're there so we don't forget anything.

I get stuck after my takeoff briefing of putting my checklist down and getting my takeoff clearance and then somewhere during the climbout going "oh (expletive of your choice), I should turn on the transponder"

-mini

 

[Kream926]

checklist established on downwind, or 5 miles out and then a GUMPS once established on final. thats how i was taught way back early in the fifty-duece, and thats how i will teach.

bodean - i cant find the NTSB report on the site. the accident i was talking about happened about a year ago, and from what i hear from the airport bums, a twin also geared up recently at RVS

- kream

 

[Kream926]

"oh (expletive of your choice), I should turn on the transponder"
-mini

haaaaaaa

countless times im guilty of that and even been inquired by atc about it
my usual rell response, "will recycle it for ya". But im sure thats everyone elses excuse

 

[bigD]

I'm gonna go against the grain on this one, but are we talking about a written checklist, or what?

I have my students do a pre-landing checklist, of course, but it's based on a pneumonic such as GUMPS, etc...nothing from a written checklist. With the friggin crazy uncontrolled strips around here, the last thing I need is my student having his/her head buried in a written checklist when they should be looking for other traffic.

 

[Goose Egg]

I'm not really huge on GUMPS, or any othe acronym for that matter. I like to see the student go through the pre-landing checklist itself on downwind. Then at least once more, I like to hear them double check the gear on base and/or final by saying "three in the green"--I think running the entire pre-landing checklist more than once is a waste of time and unneccessary workload.

-Goose

 

[midlifeflyer]

Silly question: What do you mean by "do a before landing checklist?'

Are you talking about pulling out the checklist on downwind, putting your head down and reading while in the pattern with 4 other airplanes? No I don't.

Or, are you talking about, having briefed the before landing checklist earlier in the process, using a flow, tactile or other reliable confirmation check? Yes. Absolutely.

 

[Xavier]

Exactly like midlife said, I don't get out the checklist for it, but I just remember GUMPS, which I do for the before-landing CL.


My instructor doesn't make me do the before landing checklist. He makes me GUMPS check though (Fuel Selector Valve on, Undercarriage down, Mixture Rich, Power Appropriate, Seat Belts and Shoulder Harnesses Fastened, Landing Light On), which is pretty much Before-Landing CL