Strategy for AWA pilots

[Colonel Savage]

He already showed his true colors when he stole an RJ captain seat from all those senior PSA F/O's as a new hire after he got furloughed from mainline.

I assume that was part of the Jets for Jobs program created by ALPA.

I take it you had some issues with that program?

 

[Dr. Rumack]

At least we have profit sharing!!!

 

[Colonel Savage]

But than again, I did not sleep at a Holiday Inn last night...

Did anyone in this industry sleep at all last night, I think is the question...

 

[reepicheep]

The easts' northeast empire is so strong that usair lost $5 billion in a decade-and-a-half leading up to the merger. The east lost about a million bucks a day, for nearly two decades. The east lost money with a great pilot contract, they lost money with a rock-bottom pilot contract. In fact you'd have to look hard to find a better example of a business model that is an utter failure.

No sour grapes here - just look at the hard facts. It don't work.

 

[Crzipilot]

Just curious, and haven't looked it up, but wasn't there something that after a NMB election, there can't be another one held for 2 years??? Or is that only if no union was elected?

Oh yeah,,,, Uhmmm..that stealing of the capt seat. that was thought up, dreamt up, signed off and put in place by ALPA....soooooooo I guess ALPA is a scab?

 

[TWA Dude]

Yes, a new representational election must wait for two years. (Had USAPA lost, the wait would've been one year to try again.)

 

[PositiveRate]

Changing to USAPA was the only chance of any unity at US Airways, period. The sooner we get on with it the better.

That has got to be the funniest thing I've read on this site in a long long time.

We are not unified. There is no 'getting on with it'.

 

[tathepilot]

I'm tired of warning people about language masking, If you need to curse, spell it out per the rules of FI. Reposting a language mask by Quoting is just as bad, Consider this a final warning..

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Uuhmmmmm.... Somebody got busted.

Dear Mod's, I'll be good. I swear.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Uncle Henry beating Aunt Mabel...again.

Just another family squabble...keep it to yourselves...

 

[Bringupthebird]

As an outsider looking in with an honest question. Does USAir management have to honor a new seniority list if implemented by USAPA? Why would management sign off on a seniority list that will cost them millions in training cost as they furlough qualified pilots just to replace them with pilots from the same list.

If a furlough occurred under USAPA rules, captains would get furloughed and their seats would be replaced by either upgrading or requalifying F/O's who were senior to them. How they're brought back? There's the rub.

Under Nicolau, the F/O's on the bottom get furloughed and capt.s flow down to the F/O seat until the time to return, and then everyone goes back to their pre-furlough status and then upgrades occur again. You know, the way it works everywhere else in the world.

 

[weasel_lips]

I've been thinking

Thanks for the laughs!

 

[trainer8]

I assume that was part of the Jets for Jobs program created by ALPA.

I take it you had some issues with that program?

Or, perhaps he was furloughed from Mainline, went to work for AWA, refused recall, and through Nic moved up 800-1500 numbers. Not a bad deal.

 

[TWA Dude]

Or, perhaps he was furloughed from Mainline, went to work for AWA, refused recall, and through Nic moved up 800-1500 numbers. Not a bad deal.

"refused recall"? Though it's not my job to educate you I shall. The Transition Agreement clearly spelled out that AAA-furloughees on the West will simply get to keep the better of their two seniority numbers. They will not be "recalled" since they already work for this company.

As for being a good "deal", I'd venture to guess he'd rather have not been furloughed at all.

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Ya know, it's kind of funny how even though USAPA won the Easties (and sympathizers) here still sound really bitter. Marty MCDU got himself suspended/booted off and it sounds like Trainer8 and Weasel Lips are heading in that direction. Like I've said, changing unions can't fix what's wrong with the Easties.

 

[trainer8]

"refused recall"? Though it's not my job to educate you I shall. The Transition Agreement clearly spelled out that AAA-furloughees on the West will simply get to keep the better of their two seniority numbers. They will not be "recalled" since they already work for this company.

As for being a good "deal", I'd venture to guess he'd rather have not been furloughed at all.

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Ya know, it's kind of funny how even though USAPA won the Easties (and sympathizers) here still sound really bitter. Marty MCDU got himself suspended/booted off and it sounds like Trainer8 and Weasel Lips are heading in that direction. Like I've said, changing unions can't fix what's wrong with the Easties.

What did he get booted off of? Where am I supposedly headed?