Spirit Strike VOTE

[GOULET!]

I'll ask again...when is the vote?

 

[huncowboy]

I'll ask again...when is the vote?

You should have received an email if you are eligible to vote. I have received and I can't even vote. It is already since the 16th and will be open until May 11th I think.

 

[Mike man]

April 16-May 11 is correct

 

[b19]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do wish you the best of luck.

If you don't support your local then you don't support yourself.

It really is all about the local. I have seen what excellent, really smart people on the exco and negotiating committees can accomplish by looking after their newest members thereby taking care of everyone.

Take good care of the guys in their first five years and the airline will be a place to make a career not just a job.

I wish you well, a rising tide lifts all boats.

 

[boomlrd]

My YES vote is in. Whether you like or dislike our MEC, this is not about that. We need to give them the tools to fight this management's idiotic and insulting proposals. I am hoping for at least and 85% yes vote, maybe we will get lucky and see 90%+. Either way this strike vote sill succeed, so please help support the measure and lets finally get a respectable contract. BTW, Ben B loves to brag about our 4.6 cent CASM, this is well below any other airline out there that pays its pilots much better. We have full flights, this company is rolling in cash. Southwest's CASM is significantly higher yet the pay and benefits are far superior! I hope we shoot for better than Southwest payrates, Spirit can afford it!

 

[:-)]

SPA ALPA needs to do a much better job of getting this word out

it is hard for the MEC Chair to get the truth out when his own bosses on the MEC are telling something different in the crewrooms. Our Chair knows the truth and is a good guy. He is working for a group of loudmouths on the MEC

 

[boomlrd]

We have a STRIKE AUTHORIZATION VOTE in favor of a strike! I am a proud Spirit ALPA member today!
97.55% FOR
2.45% AGAINST
94.85% of the pilot group voted!

Awesome work! Thanks again to our MEC for the continuous communication and hard work!
Now its time to stand up to this management and let ourselves be heard!
Amazing vote results!

 

[njcapt]

We have a STRIKE AUTHORIZATION VOTE in favor of a strike! I am a proud Spirit ALPA member today!
97.55% FOR
2.45% AGAINST
94.85% of the pilot group voted!

Awesome work! Thanks again to our MEC for the continuous communication and hard work!
Now its time to stand up to this management and let ourselves be heard!
Amazing vote results!

Unequivocal results. Well done!

 

[Beetle007]

If the mediator offers a Proffer of Arbitration to both parties this signifies the beginning of a potential cooling off period. Usually or always both parties decline the proffer and then he recommends a release to the NMB board. The board then brings the parties together seperatly to inquire as to their demands and then the debate whether a release would assist negotiations. The three member board then votes whether to release the two parties into Super Mediation. Once release into super mediation the 30 day cooling off period begins. At the end of the 30 days they asses whether both parties want to continue to negotiate if so no strike, if they do not then they release both to self help.

I think there a few things in your statement are inaccurate. As you said, the NMB determines when to issue a proffer of abitration. This is normally at the request of the mediator and/or one of the negotiating parties.

However, once the NMB has issued a proffer of arbitration, either party can reject it and everything is automatic from that point forward. Once it is rejected, it automatically starts the 30 day clock (cooling off period) to self help. The mediator will typically "invite" the parties to negotiations during the cooling off period. Once the 30 day clock expires, we are automatically released into self help and the company can impose C9000 and we can go on strike.

My point is that once a proffer of arbitration is issued, everyting from that point forward is automatic and is no longer a decision of the NMB. For example, the NMB never has to approve self help once the proffer of arbitration has been rejected.

 

[Joblu]

Great job guys!!! Rock on!! Don't puss out and get what you deserve!!

 

[WayBack]

Time to Stand Up to this POS management. I am voting yes, not just for my personal gains but to raise the bar in this industry. It is not worth working for a company that has no respect for its employees or its passengers. Lets get what we are worth and turn this company around.

I'm all for a good old fashion, southern hillbilly strike.
But you have to realize a couple of things.
1. In the end, that POS management still won't respect you or the passengers.

2. You guys voted in ALPA. The biggest sh*t talkers on the planet. They haven't authorized a strike since Comair management shut the door on the pilots, and the pilots started picketing the next day. I hardly call that a strike.
ALPA is all talk and won't strike. They will come up with an excuse such as "It's not a good idea in this economy" or something like that.

Like I said, I'd love a strike. But don't get too hyped up about it. Those boys at PCL have been waiting to strike since 2007.

 

[Mike man]

I'm all for a good old fashion, southern hillbilly strike.
But you have to realize a couple of things.
1. In the end, that POS management still won't respect you or the passengers.

2. You guys voted in ALPA. The biggest sh*t talkers on the planet. They haven't authorized a strike since Comair management shut the door on the pilots, and the pilots started picketing the next day. I hardly call that a strike.
ALPA is all talk and won't strike. They will come up with an excuse such as "It's not a good idea in this economy" or something like that.

Like I said, I'd love a strike. But don't get too hyped up about it. Those boys at PCL have been waiting to strike since 2007.

I wouldn't be too sure about that...no strike since Comair, true...however, all the more reason for a strike. The mediator has already told both sides he has every intention of releasing us if management keeps coming to the table with a contract worse than our current one.

I am getting more curious which airline union people think we, or anyone else, should have? It's not like there are lots of other choices out there...Teamsters? please...I think we should join a Rail Road union...they seem to have some serious pull.

 

[WayBack]

I wouldn't be too sure about that...no strike since Comair, true...however, all the more reason for a strike. The mediator has already told both sides he has every intention of releasing us if management keeps coming to the table with a contract worse than our current one.

I am getting more curious which airline union people think we, or anyone else, should have? It's not like there are lots of other choices out there...Teamsters? please...I think we should join a Rail Road union...they seem to have some serious pull.

Yep, and they even told the same thing to the PCL guys two years ago. Where are they today? Come on, obviously you believed this guy. You'd believe anyone who blew smoke up your butt. You voted for ALPA, you'd believe anything.

 

[Beetle007]

...no strike since Comair, true...however, all the more reason for a strike.

The National Mediation Board released the Polar pilots (ALPA) in 2005 and they went on strike for about half a month. They still ended up with a crappy contract (when comparing the Polar payrates to a similar company like Atlas). Obviously they are merged now and negotiating a joint contract.

 

[Mike man]

You voted for ALPA, you'd believe anything.

Easy trigger, ALPA was here when I showed up. What airline union do you suggest?