Spirit Interview MD80 Sim Eval

[Beetle007]

As long as these kids understand what a HUGE oppurtunity this is I can handle it but I have a sinking feeling that some will feel "entitled" to their job.

True, but part of the problem with this industry is that people are expected to work for peanuts and earn their way into a high paying job flying larger airplanes. This is the stepping stone syndrome that has plagued this industry.

Imagine for a second if all legacies and Low Cost Carriers were willing to hire top students directly from universities. People would no longer be able to justify a crappy job as a stepping stone. And maybe people entering this industry would demand higher pay from the bottom up.

 

[Shrek]

Definitely a different way to look at the problem but I am afraid they will never do this so we are back at the problem the way it is now I guess.......

 

[cruxx@9]

I agree with shrek on this. Of course that would be a great idea, but what is more than likely is that these wonder pilots are going to be like, "wow, geez, I get to fly an AirBus....can I pay you to do it?"

Funny part is that they already have "glass time" because the new skyhawks are glass now. Wow how the times have changed.....

At 32, I'm already one of those guys that I used to see around the FBO when I was a ramp rat. Talking about the way it used to be. I didn't think it would happen so soon. We are those "old timers" already. I can hear it now the new 400 hour pilots talking about it. They will say, "those guys were flying back when there were...what is it...I can't remember...they told me about it my first year at Embry Riddle....it had three letters....oh a NBD...no no a NDB and ADF...that's right, something about you had to actually indentify it. How does this VOR thingy work?"

AHHHH the days......

 

[mu2]

At Piedmont we have mostly round dials but our 300s have 2 tube EFIS. It consists of the ADI and HSI but can also pull up a map of the route. None of the engine gauges, airspeed, alt, or aircraft systems are displayed on screens. Is this considered glass?

 

[jmreii]

I agree with shrek on this. Of course that would be a great idea, but what is more than likely is that these wonder pilots are going to be like, "wow, geez, I get to fly an AirBus....can I pay you to do it?"

Funny part is that they already have "glass time" because the new skyhawks are glass now. Wow how the times have changed.....

At 32, I'm already one of those guys that I used to see around the FBO when I was a ramp rat. Talking about the way it used to be. I didn't think it would happen so soon. We are those "old timers" already. I can hear it now the new 400 hour pilots talking about it. They will say, "those guys were flying back when there were...what is it...I can't remember...they told me about it my first year at Embry Riddle....it had three letters....oh a NBD...no no a NDB and ADF...that's right, something about you had to actually indentify it. How does this VOR thingy work?"

AHHHH the days......

The aircraft I fly these days all have garmin equipment with no ADF/RMI, and it getting awfully difficult to find airports that have working NDB's that anybody is using as a navaid.

 

[Beetle007]

I'm guessing that most of these University CFIs are equally knowledgable about NDBs and other types of approaches as any airline pilot. They probably fly more NDB approaches in a week than most airline pilots will fly the rest of their career. Although NDBs will eventually go the way of the four-course radio range.

Ive found most "experienced" Airbus pilots don't even know how to use the BFO feature of the FMS if they had to fly an NDB approach with an underlined three letter identifier.

 

[CaravanMan]

Well holy hell, fellas...I'll go rent a G1000 172 tomorrow for some glass time!! Oh wait, yeah, I can't even afford that. My round dials have glass covers though... Hmmmm... imp:

 

[Shrek]

At Piedmont we have mostly round dials but our 300s have 2 tube EFIS. It consists of the ADI and HSI but can also pull up a map of the route. None of the engine gauges, airspeed, alt, or aircraft systems are displayed on screens. Is this considered glass?

For Spirit's purposes......yup.

 

[cruxx@9]

I'm guessing that most of these University CFIs are equally knowledgable about NDBs and other types of approaches as any airline pilot. They probably fly more NDB approaches in a week than most airline pilots will fly the rest of their career. Although NDBs will eventually go the way of the four-course radio range.

Ive found most "experienced" Airbus pilots don't even know how to use the BFO feature of the FMS if they had to fly an NDB approach with an underlined three letter identifier.

Dude, didn't mean to offend you. You are probably right a guy right out of school can probably out fly most airline pilots on an average approach, since we are running around managed/managed. I was just getting that when I learned how to fly...as probably most of us on here that learned over 10 years ago, there was NO glass at all in GA planes. Well, not the ones most of us could afford. My first C152 had ONE VOR in it. You had to cross tune two VOR's on one head...granted you are only flying at like 90 kts. If that didn't work, or if you were like me and too lazy to tune a freq, you would just buzz a water tower and look at the chart to figure out where you were. Back then very few could afford a GPS, they were really expensive then and big. Now I have a hard time finding a plane to rent without a GPS. Most students now are training on glass cockpits in GA planes and almost all of them have a GPS. Granted now there are more GPS approaches and they need to learn how to use one. It's just a different time than when most of us came into this.....that's all I was saying.

 

[iflysky]

For those that care Spirit-ERAU deal: (scroll down)

http://www.erau.edu/omni/db/academicorgs/dbasd/careers.html