Spirit Interview MD80 Sim Eval

[saviboy]

A friend of mine has an interview soon and it looks like they are doing an sim eval in the md 80 FTD now.

Anybody knows anything about that?

Thanks

 

[CX880]

Some guy at aviationinterviews said it would be an airbus device. Anyways what's with the spirit minimums 2K and 250 multi not even an ATP is required are they having trouble finding pilots?

 

[hmmurdock]

Greetings..I have an interview scheduled on the 28th of this month, and the email sent to me said there would be a 3 to 4 person panel interview and a short written exam and thats it.

 

[Beetle007]

Some guy at aviationinterviews said it would be an airbus device. Anyways what's with the spirit minimums 2K and 250 multi not even an ATP is required are they having trouble finding pilots?

2000 hours is more than that required by Delta and Northwest.

 

[ROSWELL41]

What times are people actually getting hired with at Spirit?

 

[CaravanMan]

From what I've heard, and I'm sure some Spirit guys in the know will chime in, it sounds like glass experience is what they're really looking for these days, and flight times vary.

 

[ROSWELL41]

From what I've heard, and I'm sure some Spirit guys in the know will chime in, it sounds like glass experience is what they're really looking for these days, and flight times vary.

Like no PIC time required?

 

[CaravanMan]

I think 1000 Turbine PIC is still a hard min from what I've read.

Where's Shrek when you need him?! He seems to know what's going on over there.

 

[Beetle007]

I think 1000 Turbine PIC is still a hard min from what I've read.

I know 1k used to be a "hard" min, but that has changed. I don't think it is a hard min anymore. There are people who have gotten interviewed with less and without any internal rec.

 

[CaravanMan]

Thanks, Beetle.

 

[hmmurdock]

I know 1k used to be a "hard" min, but that has changed. I don't think it is a hard min anymore. There are people who have gotten interviewed with less and without any internal rec.

Greetings..I have 500 PIC turbine and no internal recs, although I will need letters for the interview and got an interview so I am not really sure what their mins are.

 

[cruxx@9]

Spirit Hiring

About 8 months ago or so was talking to a Spirit FA that was also a pilot. He was low time, just finishing his ME-COMM. He said that Carlson was going to put him into the pilot program. I just smiled and nodded, knowing that's not how it works, whatever. It's nice to have a dream that seems so very easy.

THEN....

I was at AirBus last month and ran into a new Spirit pilot with less than 800 hours TOTAL time. (not the FA from before). That's pretty cool getting a type rating on an AirBus before you can actually fly single pilot 135. This pilot I understand is an experiment to see if they can train/type an extremely low time pilot. I guess you'll see if this will work, they do it already all over the world. Anyway, I also heard, while I was at AirBus, that Spirit is looking into an ab-intio program with Embry Riddle. Has any Spirit pilot heard anything about this? Are they going to only hire a certain percentage of these wonder pilots? They can't upgrade these pilots for a long time I'm sure, but it would be cool to be an AirBus captain with...maybe 2000 hours.

Not to flame bait, just curious.

 

[Shrek]

I heard about the same program........makes me sick.

As long as these kids understand what a HUGE oppurtunity this is I can handle it but I have a sinking feeling that some will feel "entitled" to their job.

 

[Shrek]

I think 1000 Turbine PIC is still a hard min from what I've read.

Where's Shrek when you need him?! He seems to know what's going on over there.

Beetle nailed it on the head

We need some more of those VW commercials - maybe the Super Bowl will have some !!!!

 

[CaravanMan]

Beetle nailed it on the head

We need some more of those VW commercials - maybe the Super Bowl will have some !!!!

Hahaha, I love those commercials! Yeah, I wish they'd make more of 'em!

You know I've gotta say it..., wth is the deal over there, lol? I mean, they're taking 800 hour guys (experimental as ya said) now, but I still haven't gotten a call, lol! Had an internal rec, over 1000TPIC, 1100-1200 Multi, but no call. Now, I know my times are no where near most of yours, but at least I'm finally applying to places where I'm exceeding minimums. I just figured they'd be competitive at the current time. My buddy there keeps telling me how much they need pilots, but ugh, this is depressing. I have all single-pilot experience in round dialed airplanes, which I know they don't favor at the moment and I understand why, but NOW hearing this, it's like getting a kick in the pills, lol. Poor me, ok, pitty party over. Excuse me while I put my flame suit on...

 

[Shrek]

I hear ya bud - I recommended a guy that is at Island Air in the left seat of a Dash 8/100. The 100 does not have an FMS but he got the interview.

Apparantly they liked him but were "concerned" that because he had a second job throwing boxes for FedEx that he would bail. He commuted from Hawaii for the interview and that just wasn't enough evidence that he wanted to work here!! He was prepared to move the entire family to Florida if hired.

I give up - NO rhyme or reason.

Thought you might like this site

http://www.leftlanenews.com/vw-strikes-again-un-pimp-my-ride-videos.html

 

[CaravanMan]

Oh man, good times with those videos! "Looks like eet could fly."

Too bad about your friend. Life's a beotch sometimes, eh? The best time to look for a job though is when you HAVE a job! At least he's got a gig and I do too. If they need us, they'll call us.

How's the attrition been? Slowing down any? My FO friend said he moved up several seniority spaces in just a few days...this was a couple weeks ago.

 

[Shrek]

Some are taking recalls - some are trying VA - some are going corporate and fully expect some to try the NW interview to stay in MI.

Interesting times bud........

 

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Hahaha, I love those commercials! Yeah, I wish they'd make more of 'em!

You know I've gotta say it..., wth is the deal over there, lol? I mean, they're taking 800 hour guys (experimental as ya said) now, but I still haven't gotten a call, lol! Had an internal rec, over 1000TPIC, 1100-1200 Multi, but no call. Now, I know my times are no where near most of yours, but at least I'm finally applying to places where I'm exceeding minimums. I just figured they'd be competitive at the current time. My buddy there keeps telling me how much they need pilots, but ugh, this is depressing. I have all single-pilot experience in round dialed airplanes, which I know they don't favor at the moment and I understand why, but NOW hearing this, it's like getting a kick in the pills, lol. Poor me, ok, pitty party over. Excuse me while I put my flame suit on...

No flame suit required. Spirit is looking for manipulatable people who won't cause trouble and will be happy working for peanuts. Having people who can't go anywhere else for a couple of years is an added bonus.

 

[LITCHAT7]

I just had a friend get hired the other day with 0 TPIC. Not sure of total time but does have crj glass.

 

[Beetle007]

As long as these kids understand what a HUGE oppurtunity this is I can handle it but I have a sinking feeling that some will feel "entitled" to their job.

True, but part of the problem with this industry is that people are expected to work for peanuts and earn their way into a high paying job flying larger airplanes. This is the stepping stone syndrome that has plagued this industry.

Imagine for a second if all legacies and Low Cost Carriers were willing to hire top students directly from universities. People would no longer be able to justify a crappy job as a stepping stone. And maybe people entering this industry would demand higher pay from the bottom up.

 

[Shrek]

Definitely a different way to look at the problem but I am afraid they will never do this so we are back at the problem the way it is now I guess.......

 

[cruxx@9]

I agree with shrek on this. Of course that would be a great idea, but what is more than likely is that these wonder pilots are going to be like, "wow, geez, I get to fly an AirBus....can I pay you to do it?"

Funny part is that they already have "glass time" because the new skyhawks are glass now. Wow how the times have changed.....

At 32, I'm already one of those guys that I used to see around the FBO when I was a ramp rat. Talking about the way it used to be. I didn't think it would happen so soon. We are those "old timers" already. I can hear it now the new 400 hour pilots talking about it. They will say, "those guys were flying back when there were...what is it...I can't remember...they told me about it my first year at Embry Riddle....it had three letters....oh a NBD...no no a NDB and ADF...that's right, something about you had to actually indentify it. How does this VOR thingy work?"

AHHHH the days......

 

[mu2]

At Piedmont we have mostly round dials but our 300s have 2 tube EFIS. It consists of the ADI and HSI but can also pull up a map of the route. None of the engine gauges, airspeed, alt, or aircraft systems are displayed on screens. Is this considered glass?

 

[jmreii]

I agree with shrek on this. Of course that would be a great idea, but what is more than likely is that these wonder pilots are going to be like, "wow, geez, I get to fly an AirBus....can I pay you to do it?"

Funny part is that they already have "glass time" because the new skyhawks are glass now. Wow how the times have changed.....

At 32, I'm already one of those guys that I used to see around the FBO when I was a ramp rat. Talking about the way it used to be. I didn't think it would happen so soon. We are those "old timers" already. I can hear it now the new 400 hour pilots talking about it. They will say, "those guys were flying back when there were...what is it...I can't remember...they told me about it my first year at Embry Riddle....it had three letters....oh a NBD...no no a NDB and ADF...that's right, something about you had to actually indentify it. How does this VOR thingy work?"

AHHHH the days......

The aircraft I fly these days all have garmin equipment with no ADF/RMI, and it getting awfully difficult to find airports that have working NDB's that anybody is using as a navaid.

 

[Beetle007]

I'm guessing that most of these University CFIs are equally knowledgable about NDBs and other types of approaches as any airline pilot. They probably fly more NDB approaches in a week than most airline pilots will fly the rest of their career. Although NDBs will eventually go the way of the four-course radio range.

Ive found most "experienced" Airbus pilots don't even know how to use the BFO feature of the FMS if they had to fly an NDB approach with an underlined three letter identifier.

 

[CaravanMan]

Well holy hell, fellas...I'll go rent a G1000 172 tomorrow for some glass time!! Oh wait, yeah, I can't even afford that. My round dials have glass covers though... Hmmmm... imp:

 

[Shrek]

At Piedmont we have mostly round dials but our 300s have 2 tube EFIS. It consists of the ADI and HSI but can also pull up a map of the route. None of the engine gauges, airspeed, alt, or aircraft systems are displayed on screens. Is this considered glass?

For Spirit's purposes......yup.

 

[cruxx@9]

I'm guessing that most of these University CFIs are equally knowledgable about NDBs and other types of approaches as any airline pilot. They probably fly more NDB approaches in a week than most airline pilots will fly the rest of their career. Although NDBs will eventually go the way of the four-course radio range.

Ive found most "experienced" Airbus pilots don't even know how to use the BFO feature of the FMS if they had to fly an NDB approach with an underlined three letter identifier.

Dude, didn't mean to offend you. You are probably right a guy right out of school can probably out fly most airline pilots on an average approach, since we are running around managed/managed. I was just getting that when I learned how to fly...as probably most of us on here that learned over 10 years ago, there was NO glass at all in GA planes. Well, not the ones most of us could afford. My first C152 had ONE VOR in it. You had to cross tune two VOR's on one head...granted you are only flying at like 90 kts. If that didn't work, or if you were like me and too lazy to tune a freq, you would just buzz a water tower and look at the chart to figure out where you were. Back then very few could afford a GPS, they were really expensive then and big. Now I have a hard time finding a plane to rent without a GPS. Most students now are training on glass cockpits in GA planes and almost all of them have a GPS. Granted now there are more GPS approaches and they need to learn how to use one. It's just a different time than when most of us came into this.....that's all I was saying.

 

[iflysky]

For those that care Spirit-ERAU deal: (scroll down)

http://www.erau.edu/omni/db/academicorgs/dbasd/careers.html