Southwest slam clicks- c'mon captains....

[twepilot]

Well as for AirTran being a top tier airline...You just never know what ya had til its gone...Additionally, we kicked your asses performance wise and still are. You guys are a LONG way from the triple crown days and as far as I can see the slide is accelerating . 186/hr..Yeah I was happy with that.

Here's the bet blow hard..
You don't think its a paycut for someone of my longevity?
we'll compare my w2, (Box 1) from either 2013 or 2014 your choice, to my w2, (Box1) of 2015 and if its less than 2013 or 2014 you pony up and pay me the difference.
In turn, if I make more in 2015 I'll double what the difference is and write you a check.

Put your money where your mouth is windbag.

RV

 

[waveflyer]

Can you guys source these great rates that you had turned down already?

Do you not get that, if true, those rates came with other work rules or give backs that made you vote them down so that weakens the context in any case?
Do you see that?

The rates that matter are your actual rates-
You clearly haven't transition tough guy, so why are you so opinionated about something that hasn't happened yet

 

[twepilot]

I'm sick and tired about some ass saying its not a paycut...simple...Lots of guys are getting raises, for a few its a wash, a lot of others are getting a paycut...simple...

I don't ordinarily argue about stuff like this. SWA was the "hometown" airline for me for most of my adult life. I have a lot of friends there that have said good things through the years. Its just kind of a bummer to lose my seat, my base and my pay. In the long run, it'll probably be a good thing. The "long run" is going to be a different time period to different people. The guys that will never upgrade (or re-upgrade) the long run is the never-ending tunnel with just a glimmer of light in the distance. To the super senior guys that will re-upgrade early next year its merely a thorn in the side that will quickly be excised. In my case, I'm near the super senior side of things but I won't re-upgrade if I have to commute.

RV

 

[PCL_128]

Do you not get that, if true, those rates came with other work rules or give backs that made you vote them down so that weakens the context in any case?
Do you see that?

No give backs, but it didn't contain other gains that we expected. But we still didn't end up with many of those, either, because again, we had to cave after the NMB decided that they weren't going to cause any problems for a pending merger transaction.

 

[waveflyer]

Fair enough RV
I can see that

 

[waveflyer]

Source PCL?

 

[PCL_128]

Source PCL?

Ask me after I resign.

 

[waveflyer]

Why would that matter.

Make the claim, especially as often as you guys do-
Back it up

 

[orangebellyav8r]

I'm sick and tired about some ass saying its not a paycut...simple...Lots of guys are getting raises, for a few its a wash, a lot of others are getting a paycut...simple

RV

Then leave ASS.........We didn't want you and we don't need you...

 

[redflyer65]

Here's the bet blow hard..
You don't think its a paycut for someone of my longevity?
we'll compare my w2, (Box 1) from either 2013 or 2014 your choice, to my w2, (Box1) of 2015 and if its less than 2013 or 2014 you pony up and pay me the difference.
In turn, if I make more in 2015 I'll double what the difference is and write you a check.

Put your money where your mouth is windbag.

RV

You mean bet you that your NEW payrates are more than what you'll get when you transition? Was would that prove? You've been paid by Southwest Airlines starting May 2nd, 2011. The discussion is about what you were being paid prior to Southwest even being in the picture. And better yet, I wish ALPA would have voted the first agreement in. You would have had our payrates immediately and kept your CA seat. I never dreamed you'd lose your seat and I've never said that was a good thing.

The bottom line is this.....your pay increased 30+/hr from 2010 to 2011 after SW stepped in. I understand it was to clean the books up and make it happen. So I'm not looking for any kudos there. Will you lose from your new SW payrates 2014 to the transition year of 2015? Probably if your a CA. No way if your an FO. But those aren't baseline AirTran rates anyway. Sorry.