Southwest could lose 121 Certificate

[Ty Webb]

This is not a merger so that is not a player. In our contract we have a similiar provision only if we buy someone. Is yours worded the same way? Would you mind sharing the wording of that section of your contract?

Mergers and Acquisitions are treated the same under our Contract. Our Contract requires the other airline, in this case, SWA, to sign off on it before consummating the purchase. It's my understanding that SWA has signed it.

Basically, our Contract says that in the event of a merger or a purchase of AAI the operations have to be combined within 18 months and the seniority lists merged according to Allegheny Mohawk or existing RLA law. It also prevents selling off the assets before combining operations.

 

[SWA/FO]

In that case they would be forced to use
The AT Certificate.Maybe the SW guys
Should look for a fair solution, and
Not a "Seat-Grab Windfall"

This "Seat-Grab Windfall" is not to be confused with the pending tranny Draft 2011 - MOTHER OF All WINDFALLS!

Its a good thing tranny brings everything to the table....the 3 WISE Men will figure it out. tranny pilots = bring everything and get everything.... Southwest Pilots = bring nothing to the party and get nothing. Sounds fair to me. imp:

 

[Bob Dylan]

God, this is seriously the world's easiest negotiation. Offer them a staple or no integration period. They will vote on it, and they will overwhelmingly accept a staple. Only a few morons at the top will be too blinded by greed, but the rest of th group likely know how lucky they are.

Easy to make it conditional too. For example, make it a condition that if the trannies want to let an arbitrator decide the SLI, then there will neverbe an SLI and the groups will be permanently separate under different contracts.

Seriously folks, when the majority of the trannie pilots want a staple, it's gonna happen. A few blowhards on FI don't make a difference.

 

[Ty Webb]

Dylan, check that CO level, buddy. I think you've got an exhaust leak.

 

[OurMoney1]

Google; Guadalupe Holdings Corp

Gary never has to merge Airtran....his people have their bases covered. Look at this from all angles, chances are he has too!

sorry....no Mccaskill and Bloo boo penalty here, nice try though. He's borrowed language to what Parker did to USAir.

Play ball or else. Amazing how they pit us against each other.

 

[becket]

I can't believe this B.S. has garnered 3 pages worth of response. Ignore it.

 

[IslandDriver]

What happened to the Midwest Express guys when Republic bought them? Could this purchase be handled the same? I see Republic planes flying around with Midwest Logos....could Southwest purchase AirTran and shut them down like Republic did to Midwest? Just wondering!

 

[SWA/FO]

What happened to the Midwest Express guys when Republic bought them? Could this purchase be handled the same? I see Republic planes flying around with Midwest Logos....could Southwest purchase AirTran and shut them down like Republic did to Midwest? Just wondering!

Not sure, but I do know that Gary is a smart dude and he has a plan A, B, C & D. Wonder what was in the Midwest Airlines contract? Didn't help them.

 

[stlflyguy]

This is not a merger so that is not a player. In our contract we have a similiar provision only if we buy someone. Is yours worded the same way? Would you mind sharing the wording of that section of your contract?

It doesn't have to be a "merger" in the literal sense. Your airline is buying 50% or more of another carrier.

http://bapwild.com/blog/?p=4

 

[tico]

Sure seems, after reading volumes on Guadalupe Holdings/SWA/Airtran, that this deal was structured by Airtran and SWA to alleviate the need to ever merge work groups.....I would guess that both Airtran and SWA lawyers worked the issues surrounding the Airtran cba, the SWA cba and whatever minor roll that the Bond/McCaskill legislation would have on this acquisition and structured the deal to avoid any potential road blocks