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RightPedal

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This is powerful!
All our prayers to our dear Lord. He is working to protect our Service men and women!
Everyone keep up the prayers!
God bless America!

Subject: The Sandstorm
I am sure that all of you heard about the sandstorm in Iraq recently (the worst in 100 years some say) and the drenching rain that followed the next day. Our troops were bogged down and couldn't move effectively.
The media was already wondering if the troops were in a "quagmire" and dire predictions of gloom and doom came from the left wing media. What they didn't report was that yesterday, after the weather had cleared, the Marine group that was mired the worst looked out at the plain they were just about to cross. What did they see?
Hundreds if not thousands of anti-tank and anti-personnel mines had been uncovered by the wind and then washed off by the rain. If they had proceeded as planned, many lives would have undoubtedly been lost. As it was, they simply drove around them and let the demolition teams destroy them.
Thank you, God, for protecting our young men and women!

One person once asked George Washington if he thought God was on his side. His reply is reported to be, "It is not that God should be on our side, but that we be on His."
 
All our prayers to our dear Lord. He is working to protect our Service men and women!

We all have our own beliefs that are very important to us. This however, is not the site to express them.
 
Why not?
 
Please! Don't do this.
I certainly didn't mean to start a fight. Although I should have known it would. And for that I truly apologize.

We all have free will to believe, and speak what we want. These kids who are dieing today, and all those who have gone before them give us that right.

You pick any group of those service men on that battle field. They contain many nationalities and religions. They are completely unified. They stand together and will die for what they beleive, and for them we should to.

Religion is a dangerous thing, but there is something deep inside each and every one of us that knows the truth. That is what we fight with, not about.
 
Chperpilot,

I don't totally disagree with you but if rightpedal's story doesn't have a place on the general board then neither does all the trash talk about women, drinking etc... If there is a positive story to share about our military I don't see what harm it could possible do to your beliefs or mine.

No hard feelings intended.
 
RightPedal

My post was not written to start a fight.

fly4ever

Because the post was absolutely religious based. This is not a religious board and such content does not belong here.

How would everyone feel if people started throwing in bible passages when asking for help, or quoting this or that when they were saved from a bad landing?

I'm not saying that being spiritual isn't a wonderful thing. I'm just saying I don't think it belongs here.
 
chperplt said:

I'm not saying that being spiritual isn't a wonderful thing. I'm just saying I don't think it belongs here.

This is a general subjects board. We talk about computers, cell phones, politics, restuarants, etc. As long as the subject is not aimed at flaming people/persons, and is not considered to be objectionable to the general public; I say "post it". If all we ever talked about was Delta vs DCI, or PFT, or the perfect ILS, this forum would shrivel up and die.

To the original poster, please post a verification to your story.

regards,
8N
 
Chper, I not going to get involved in a fight on a stupid computer but, if you dont like it, hit the back button and move on.

This board used to be full of very useful information, I even got my current job from this board.

We can talk about steak joints, bars, hotels, phone plans, selling cars, etc, etc.

Alot of the posts now involve flaming, bashing, and name calling.

I aggree that the industry is not like it used to be, but that is no reason for acting like 10th graders.

Why would anybody be interested in hearing someone say to another how to act, especially anonomously. PM the guy/gal, get there phone# and tell them directly if you are that concerned.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, or seem like an instagator, but (respectfully) lets keep it real.

No responce needed, I'm done with this thread.

Hey Rightpedal, my brother has been over there since the begining, I appreciate the prayers for him and all of them.
 
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I agree with chprplt. I'm very tired of people putting everything in a religious context. I grew up without any religious influences. A few generations back my ancestors were being harrassed because of their religion (protestants, catholics, reformed) and decided to drop the whole thing. Religion is nothing else than believing in something you've been told from day one (a form of brainwashing). I don't have any inner feelings, someone watching over me, or thinking that there is 'something else' out there. I'm responsible for my own actions, I can't blame it on some higher force. If someone tells me 'god bless you' or 'my prayers are with you' I have no clue what they want.
what I really hate are all those people that insist I should come to their church, insist that there is something else out there, and tell me I live a bad live, and don't leave me alone when I say I'm not interested. I've never committed a crime other than driving a little bit too fast. If every religious person out there would stick to the law as me than there wouldn't be so many prisons. If you just use common sense than there is no need for the 10 commendments. Luckily I never had that praying stuff at school, and if I ever have to take an oath I'll have a hard time.
A nation under god. What?? Oh yeah, except me, and a lot of other non-religious people or folks from religions that have a different version of god. We have a lot of muslims fighting in our forces, I guess for them it's 'one nation under allah'. The good thing for not having a religion is that you are a neutral party towards any religion. No 'I don't like you because you're a catholic, muslim, jew, protestant, or whatever else'.

Please don't attack me now, it's just the way I've been raised and how I think. I hope you just respect that, just like I will respect your beliefs.
 
This story was forward to me in an e-mail. I sent a reply to the person it orininated. Hopefully I will get a response as to the source.
If it's that important to substantiate, maybe someone could send it to Bill O'reilly at the factor. Maybe I'll do it myself.

Edit: I did send it to O'Reilly
 
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metrodriver said:

Please don't attack me now, it's just the way I've been raised and how I think. I hope you just respect that, just like I will respect your beliefs.

Metrodriver,

No attack, but I have to ask; Why do you even feel the need to enter a conversation that supposedly doesn't interest you? I certainly respect your decision to reject religion, I just don't understand why so many who reject religion feel the need to enter religious discussions.

regards,
8N
 
so many who reject religion feel the need to enter religious discussions

If you lumped me in with this statement, I never said I reject religion. Quite the contrary.. I just feel there should be a separation of church and the aviation message board.
 
enigma said:
Why do you even feel the need to enter a conversation that supposedly doesn't interest you? I certainly respect your decision to reject religion, I just don't understand why so many who reject religion feel the need to enter religious discussions.

Engima, I totally agree with you. I may not believe some things he said, but that doesn't mean I am offended by it, nor did I feel any need to criticize him.

A few months ago someone on this forum said something like...
"the constitution guarantees you freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion."

For those of you not wanting anything remotely religion related here, the answer is simple. Ignore it, and don't reply to it.

I don't see how a semi-religious post belongs here less than a post about politics, or that you think GW is dumb or smart, or that you are for or against a war, etc.

P.S. What do all of you anti-religion types do for Christmas, Easter, etc?
 
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Because the post was absolutely religious based.

I thought the post was absolutely military-in-Iraq based. I suppose it depends on your perspective, eh?


I just feel there should be a separation of church and the aviation message board.

Did I detect a grin in that quote? Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but since he's already dead he wont mind a thump or two.

The original concept of the separation of church and state came out of the fact that the "church" had become a political entity more than a religious entity, much as Christ observed about the Sanhedrin and Sadduce jews. The origination of this concept, in a letter from Jefferson to some Massachusets Baptists, led to the inclusion in the Constitution that "congress shal make no law respecting religion". It had absolutely NOTHING to do with keeping religious views out of public discourse, public holidays, public schools.....or even public message boards. In fact, for most of our nation's existance the puiblic has enjoyed an active and vital ability to express religious views. Only in recent times, when the supreme court took a giant leap in the interpretation of the "establishment clause", as it is known, has religious affiliation become an unpopular topic in public discourse.

That said, I have not posted or lead any prayers here, and only rarely posted verses for the sake of clarification in our discussions. I realize that a number of my fellow board members find any mention of God to be particularly irritating. If so, let me apologize yet again on behalf of all of us who are believers.

From our perspective, God is a part of everyone's life...

...whether they believe it or not. :)
 
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Oh don’t fret all… someone will come along soon enough and turn this into a J4J or PFT issue.

J4J=Jesus for Jets
PFT=Pray For Training

Some folks on this board are wound entirely too tight

Peace
C
 
DMS,

The roblem is that his post is a bull sh@t story made up and then turned to serve as some kind of religous propaganda. It doesn't belong here any more than a story about homo's meant to try to persuade you to think their life style is a great one that all should embrace.

To answer your other question, we celabrate the day that santa and the easter bunny come. To us they are more beleivable than jesus.
 

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