Somebody say it aint so...UsAirwest and AirTran to merge!

[Lowrider717]

You heard it here first!

Its always the one you don't hear about that happens.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Why do I think that makes more sense than Parker's Delta pipe dream. I know several years ago when I was jumpseating thru ATL on a regular basis our station people mentioned that Parker was passing through quite a bit and the rumor at the time was AirTran. Seems Parker has a rather strong interest in an ATL hub. I think this would have made more sense if done properly (ie. NO hostile takeover) than trying to drag the poor folks at Delta kicking and screaming into the fry against their will. But; then again, what do I know? I only work here...


PHXFLYR

 

[SkiFishFly]

Why do I think that makes more sense than Parker's Delta pipe dream. I know several years ago when I was jumpseating thru ATL on a regular basis our station people mentioned that Parker was passing through quite a bit and the rumor at the time was AirTran. Seems Parker has a rather strong interest in an ATL hub. I think this would have made more sense if done properly (ie. NO hostile takeover) than trying to drag the poor folks at Delta kicking and screaming into the fry against their will. But; then again, what do I know? I only work here...


PHXFLYR

Who says that AirTran reaction would not be the same or worse? I think this would be a terrible deal for Airtran pilots.

 

[PHXFLYR]

What ever floats your boat, Admiral. I'm sure the MidEx guys are saying the same about your offer,too.

PHXFLYR

 

[Otto77]

I think UsAirwest should let things cool for awhile and see how they can handle their first merger before adding everyone else to the misfit system.

 

[Choppy]

What ever floats your boat, Admiral. I'm sure the MidEx guys are saying the same about your offer,too.

PHXFLYR

Funny how you never think of it until it is your shoes getting pissed on!

 

[ATLDRVR]

Show me one negative post by a Midwest pilot on this board about the proposed AirTran merger. There has not been a whole lot said by the Midwest pilot group.

 

[PHXFLYR]

I think UsAirwest should let things cool for awhile and see how they can handle their first merger before adding everyone else to the misfit system.

Agreed. But unfortunatly "Boy Wonder" (ie Parker) doesn't see it that way.I'm
beginning to wonder if he doesn't suffer from some form of Attention Deficit Disorder


PHXFLYR

 

[SkiFishFly]

What ever floats your boat, Admiral. I'm sure the MidEx guys are saying the same about your offer,too.

PHXFLYR

Airtran - growing, Midwest - barely growing if not stagnant

Airtran upgrade - about 3 years, Midwest considerably longer

Neither airline has folks on the street.

Seems like it could be a pretty good deal for Midwest pilots to suddenly find themselves in an ariline which will continue to grow over the next 5 years.

Thanks for the promotion. Will I see it in my next retirement check?

 

[Lear70]

Airtran - growing, Midwest - barely growing if not stagnant

Airtran upgrade - about 3 years, Midwest considerably longer

Neither airline has folks on the street.

Seems like it could be a pretty good deal for Midwest pilots to suddenly find themselves in an ariline which will continue to grow over the next 5 years.

Exactly.

The only Midwest folks who wouldn't like it are the super-senior guys that would no longer be top dog, or the guys that really, really like being their own small airline (big fish, small pond syndrome), or the super-junior guys who might end up at the bottom of the list at Airtran and even THOSE guys would be in a better position than they are now unless Midwest started buying airplanes (11 days left in this year, didn't they say something about an anouncement by then?)

I'm hearing more grumbling from the junior Airtran pilots than anyone else. A few people seem to be happy about it because it's financially positive for the company as a whole, but most of us realize that if the integration is anything other than a staple for the Midwest guys (which wouldn't be fair and I doubt we'd see anyway), we WILL end up getting the shaft regarding upgrade.

I wouldn't be interested in being a UAir acquisition, either. The only airlines that I wouldn't mind being at the bottom of in an acquisition would be SWA or CAL (in that order), simply because the pay scales are livable as an F/O with a family for 5, 7, or even 10 years and there's less chance of a furlough at airlines that are actively hiring.

Just my .02 cents, but thanks for the deviation into "fantasy land".

 

[EX_CV580FR8Dawg]

Lear...yes there are 11 days left. In our interview presentation, the VP of flight Ops had said it most likely would be early 07 when they would announce their intentions of the new fleet type. I'm going to be the eternal optimist here.

 

[Lear70]

Lear...yes there are 11 days left. In our interview presentation, the VP of flight Ops had said it most likely would be early 07 when they would announce their intentions of the new fleet type. I'm going to be the eternal optimist here.

I really really REALLY hope you're right, that there will be an announcement of expansion plans backed by solid financial ability to do so, and your shareholders tell AAI mgmt "No, thanks."

 

[737 Pylt]

Show me one negative post by a Midwest pilot on this board about the proposed AirTran merger. There has not been a whole lot said by the Midwest pilot group.

Have you met chuck yogurt/einstein/lawman/texas croch rot/400ahole?

737

 

[AV80R]

Have you met chuck yogurt/einstein/lawman/texas croch rot/400ahole?

737

Exactly! :laugh:

 

[FlyWolf]

Have you met chuck yogurt/einstein/lawman/texas croch rot/400ahole?

737

Exactly! :laugh:

Please don’t view one person’s view as an indication to the entire Midwest pilot group.

I personally think the merger news in not negative at all.

 

[Minimaniac]

The mergers are coming. Wall street has decided that mergers are a good idea. A CEO who wants to make money will sell himself to the whims of Wall Street because in the end, the majority of an airline CEO's compensation comes from stock sales. By catering to the wishes of some "guru" in NYC (who was last month the self-appointed savior of the textile/ fast-food/ automotive/ replacement widget industry), a CEO can raise the value of his stock options. Even the mere speculation of merger can make those theiving idiots-in-charge a few million richer overnight. If you think SJS is a problem in our industry, wait until merger-wealth envy flares up among the CEOs. Doug Parker is going to get that new GT500 first... who is going to one up him, and who is going to for that new Ferrari?

 

[AV80R]

Please don’t view one person’s view as an indication to the entire Midwest pilot group.

Oh no, don't worry, chuckster has made quite a name for him/her/itself! No one would dream of using chucky as a spokesperson for a specific airline... I've jumpseated many times on Midwest Express and know that you guys have a topnotch pilot and flight attendant group. Unfortunately, you'll find "rotten eggs" at every airline...

 

[400ADude]

I wouldn't be interested in being a UAir acquisition, either. The only airlines that I wouldn't mind being at the bottom of in an acquisition would be SWA or CAL (in that order), simply because the pay scales are livable as an F/O with a family for 5, 7, or even 10 years and there's less chance of a furlough at airlines that are actively hiring.

Just my .02 cents, but thanks for the deviation into "fantasy land".

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Lear70]

Why don't you quote the whole thing, my flame baiting friend? You know, the part where I said the Midwest acquisition would hurt us junior (at the time) f/o's unless it was a staple, but that a staple wouldn't be fair and I doubt we'd see it.

Again, my personal feelings about this SLI aren't representative of anyone but myself. Have a nice night.

Exactly.

The only Midwest folks who wouldn't like it are the super-senior guys that would no longer be top dog, or the guys that really, really like being their own small airline (big fish, small pond syndrome), or the super-junior guys who might end up at the bottom of the list at Airtran and even THOSE guys would be in a better position than they are now unless Midwest started buying airplanes (11 days left in this year, didn't they say something about an anouncement by then?)

I'm hearing more grumbling from the junior Airtran pilots than anyone else. A few people seem to be happy about it because it's financially positive for the company as a whole, but most of us realize that if the integration is anything other than a staple for the Midwest guys (which wouldn't be fair and I doubt we'd see anyway), we WILL end up getting the shaft regarding upgrade.

I wouldn't be interested in being a UAir acquisition, either. The only airlines that I wouldn't mind being at the bottom of in an acquisition would be SWA or CAL (in that order), simply because the pay scales are livable as an F/O with a family for 5, 7, or even 10 years and there's less chance of a furlough at airlines that are actively hiring.

Just my .02 cents, but thanks for the deviation into "fantasy land".

 

[Bob Dylan]

Oh jeez. Another thread where Lear70 hoping to be stapled to SWA. Wonder how many more there are?

I guess all that has changed now though. What a flippin hypocrite!