Griz said:
I just think it is pointless to sit and argue with guys like Publishers and CatYaaak that have no desire to work in this or a similar industry. Why should I care what they think when they aren't ever going to be doing this for a living? The answer is, I don't. Free country..they can post..I can ignore.
Nice attitude. Your propensity to "ignore" that which you don't want to hear comes as no suprise....it's what got you to where you are now, and you share it with others who came along before you. You ignored those of us who had been around long enough who told you NOT to ignore the PFT/training contracts and lousy pay when deciding whether or not to work there, because until you came along flying under those terms was reserved for the rare, fly-by-night, revolving door charter outfit. Nah....you knew better.
But everyone there, including you, knowingly gave away the Salary Store in return for something; flying jets, a schedule and gateways, an easy transition from military into civilian flying, or in your case as you stated elsewhere, to "gain experience flying glass". The reason corporate pilots didn't flock to join EJA/NJA because of the low pay...what you did see were lots of more-poorly paid regional pilots and ex-military doing it for pragmatic reasons. Now however, just like then, we see a lot of them/you neophyte-turned experts loudly complaining about what others told them not to ignore.
Your assertion that because someone isn't working for a frac means that they have nothing constructive to say is no different than someone proclaiming that the advice "Don't walk down dark alleyways in seedy neighbourhoods" is worthless coming from someone who has avoided getting mugged, yet the same advice coming from him is somehow unique and "enlightened" because he did indeed walk down one, and somebody stole his wallet.
It's funny when you act all indignant-like with the whole "ignore" thing. This is a public message board for public consumption, and you know it, so get over it. It gets ridiculous, however, when you begin challenging people like NJA Owner to "prove" themselves to you, even going so far to imply that others won't pay any attention to their opinions until they've subjected themselves to some kind of Griz Vetting Process to establish their bona fides to good 'ole Griz's satisfaction.
I can appreciate you wanting to clean up that seedy alleyway, and I hope you're successful, but it's your own mess you helped create and perpetuate by walking down it, so excuse some of us if we don't find the sound of your loudest Righteous Cause Trumpets and their banners (ie. the ones that read "Fighting corporate greed", "Gee the kids are on food stamps", and the "The Owners can afford more") that rallying.