Some of Pinnacle's "finest" [from the 9E board]

[XJohXJ]

Who cares if it's illegal or not. What do we have to lose now?? NOTHING!!

Smart@ss's was better.

ALPA isn't "them".

ALPA is "you".

You want ALPA to do something, start with yourself.

 

[Smarta$$]

That's the problem. ALPA is totally useless. They stand by and watch our jobs go down the toilet. ALPA needs to stand up and put up a fight. Who cares if it's illegal or not. What do we have to lose now?? NOTHING!! And don't tell me ALPA will cease to exist. The New York Transit Workers Union (TWU) stood up and told them where to shove it and looks like they are still around despite the fines and jail time. I will gladly pay a fine (assesment) to show this industry who is in charge. What good is a union if they never stand up to the pressures of management injustice. Might as well not have one.

Alpa is the pilots of Pinnacle. Yes, Alpa has some elected leaders. They make decissions based on what is best for the group within the legal confines. But something like you suggest, which I also agree, can't come from them. It has to be grass roots, peer to peer, you and I, and has to involve the real union, which is you and me. And every other pilot from pinnacle.

Use ASA as an example. They got their contract from a pilot to pilot campagn. There was no memo or directive from the union leadership. That is illegal. However, the real union of ASA pilots made it happen.

I am ready, are the rest of you?

 

[Grinder10]

Flyer 1015, What was your point in starting this thread?

 

[CRJ200pilot]

You people on this thread are childish and unprofessional.... very unprofessional

 

[Smarta$$]

You people on this thread are childish and unprofessional.... very unprofessional

Why, because we don't want to eat a shat sandwich?

 

[dustrpilot]

Pinnacle CAs have always had a problem with taxiing way too fast. I had to represent one guy who slammed on his brakes and sent the FA flying 10 feet down the aisle because he was going so fast when he hit the brakes. I don't know where they get it from, but that part of the culture needs to change, contract negotiations or not.

I was on two ComAir flights today and both taxied like SouthWest pilots, so there.....and our contract is better than somebody else's,
we're keeping our Delta flying,
some of our FA's are hot,
some of our planes look better than others,
our Dir of Standards can wup your Director of Standards,
and uh, MESA still sucks,






where is the Tylenol

 

[20sx]

The CRJ taxiing on 2 engines likes to go fast. Braking too a crawl and then speeding up again gets old. Riding the brakes gets old too. Single engine, the taxiing is at a normal pace, saves gas, and saves wear on the brakes. Of course, maybe I shouldn't try to save on the brakes since I work at Pinnacle....

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Twice the gas and 3x the brakes, YEAH!
PBR

 

[Cokie907]

My briefing to an FO is as follows: We always taxi with 2 engines unless shutting one down will help US out, we always take off flaps 20 and we always leave the APU on until 10,000 feet and start it coming thru 10,000 feet. That way we run as safe and inefficient an operation as possible.

Sometimes I do taxi fast. If we're running late and I gotta make up time to the outstation so I can quick turn it for the people, so be it. This job is about taking care of people who could have driven instead. I do anything I can to make sure they make their connections and not get stuck in the terminal for 5 hours.

Oh, and riding the brakes may get old but it builds up the muscles in your legs. The mechanics complained that brakes are being replaced like crazy in DTW so some of us are keeping the faith. Bravo Zulu!

 

[20sx]

I don't waste fuel...Northwest pays for that and in this day and age every drop of oil is precious. However, using the APU a lot does hurt Pinnacle (a little wasteful on gas, but doable). You're right, maybe I should be riding the brakes a little bit more

 

[Raskal]

Not a CRJ pilot, but why not pop a reverser in idle? Is there a limitation? I know on various jets (the hawkers I flew, gulfstreams etc...) most can run a reverser in idle while taxiing without any issue (contaminated surfaces are obviously out) and it was an easy way to taxi while light.

 

[norskman2]

Not a CRJ pilot, but why not pop a reverser in idle? Is there a limitation? I know on various jets (the hawkers I flew, gulfstreams etc...) most can run a reverser in idle while taxiing without any issue (contaminated surfaces are obviously out) and it was an easy way to taxi while light.

Can't use reversers below I believe 60 kts. because of FOD (foreign object damage). Plus, I would think it would be a lot of wear and tear on the reversers.

 

[Raskal]

Can't use reversers below I believe 60 kts. because of FOD (foreign object damage). Plus, I would think it would be a lot of wear and tear on the reversers.

Ahh, than that takes care of that. The limitation we had was nothing above idle while below 50kias and, of course, no backing up the aircraft. As for wear, I was referring to only those long straightaways where you have the chance to build up speed while light so it probably wouldn't be much.

 

[Tarzan]

Can't use reversers below I believe 60 kts. because of FOD (foreign object damage). Plus, I would think it would be a lot of wear and tear on the reversers.

Doubt that is the limitation. Ours is reduce to idle before 75kts. Probably the same with you guys. Thanks for letting us know what FOD is. I was scratching my head with that one.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Can't use reversers below I believe 60 kts. because of FOD (foreign object damage). Plus, I would think it would be a lot of wear and tear on the reversers.

You can use them below 60kts, they just have to be at idle.

 

[Plainsman]

Last week in ATL a 9E 900 was asked if they could take 9R instead of 9L due to a fod check that would take 5 minutes. The crew took the tower up on the offer. Now that's flying safe!

 

[Flyer1015]

Can't use reversers below I believe 60 kts. because of FOD (foreign object damage). Plus, I would think it would be a lot of wear and tear on the reversers.

Study your limitations again (assuming you're at Pinnacle), you can use them below 60 kts... at reverse idle.

 

[WildBlue]

The original author of one of these posts is a MEM Captain, rather young, who was made a check airman. Also, the PCL board, unlike most others, are NOT anonymous...the pilot's name is there for all to see....including management snitches.

Just about all the pilots affiliated with the training or checking departments are brown nosers and stooges who know that whatever they say on the PCL board will get back to their management. There are a few exception, such as JH, who can say whatever they want with no repercussion.

Fato does not tolerate dissent within the checking department. He is a stooge for Seal. He has created a bloated monster consisting of overpaid posterior smackers who do nothing to rock their little gravy train.

In three years of picketing events I can barely remember seeing any of these prima donnas walking at any event.

Just for the record, the CA that authored on of the original posts refused to allow the MEC to borrow his flatbed trailer for the last event in MEM because he thought the ALPA Rat was "unprofessional". TOOL!

 

[Flyer1015]

Sounds like SA to me!

 

[WildBlue]

Give the man a ceegah.

 

[acaTerry]

With all due respect, if that's the case, then why aren't we hearing of a work-to-rule campaign? Why am I not seeing -900s taxiing slow in ATL? If people aren't scared of management, then show it and put a hurt on them. You want a fair contract? Then fight for it.

Good luck with that...SJS dictates that flying a nice "big" jet IS a fair contract. Of course I can see you are probably one of the guys who is trying to educate them, and they probably call you a whiner. We'll see what song they're singing after a few more years of right seat CRJ flying at 20 bucks-ish an hour. Keep fighting.

 

[Caboclo]

Forgive me if I'm out of the loop, but I seem to remember that you guys already voted to strike. How much longer does the process take before you actually walk?

 

[RP170]

You don't get it then. It's NOT two people 'only.' More and more Captains I fly with, are predominantly "pro" company and trying to do everything possible to "help" the company.

Proud to be Pinnacle lifers I suppose huh?

 

[Flyer1015]

Forgive me if I'm out of the loop, but I seem to remember that you guys already voted to strike. How much longer does the process take before you actually walk?

We have to be released into self-help. 30 day cooling period first, then self-help. aka, we can strike after that.

Won't happen. Thank whoever you want. Bush administration, pro-company elected officals, etc. etc.

 

[John_W_Thompson]

Study your limitations again (assuming you're at Pinnacle), you can use them below 60 kts... at reverse idle.

Reversers cannot be used when off the runway unless it's an emergency (Captain's authority) such as ice / nil braking / about to hit something. It's in the book.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Smart@ss's was better.

ALPA isn't "them".

ALPA is "you".

You want ALPA to do something, start with yourself.

Without proper leadership, you'll just end up in a boat with everyone rowing in a different direction. Can't work.

 

[Caboclo]

OK, just tell me one thing: with everyone else furloughing, is Pinnacle still having to use the quick-upgrade program to keep the planes flying?

 

[DX Rick]

We have to be released into self-help. 30 day cooling period first, then self-help. aka, we can strike after that.

Won't happen. Thank whoever you want. Bush administration, pro-company elected officals, etc. etc.

please explain how self help work. Sounds prety comical