Some of Pinnacle's "finest" [from the 9E board]

[Flyer1015]

Define "Spineless"...........



Captain 1:

"He said the only way they can cut us, is if our performance goes below a certain level. Otherwise, we're in good shape. Lets just make sure we leave on time and arrive on time, otherwise, they WILL cut us.


With that said, we need ironclad scope protection in our new contract or "No Deal"."

Captain 2:

I agree! So we need to be doing everything we(us pilots) can do to get these flights out on time. None of this big headed, egotistical and prideful arrogance about not helping the company out until they give us a contract crap!

 

[VGerect]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Thats got to be 2 MEM guys, aka "The northern Mississippi flying club"

 

[veneratio]

I don't work for pinnacle, but when I fly, every flight is at least block or better...

 

[Windsor]

Posting other peoples comments from a private company BB is spineless. Keep it in house.

While I'm not going to make extraordinary efforts to make sure we have on time arrivals and departures, I'm certanly not going to hinder things.

 

[PCL_128]

Please tell me those were MEM d0uches. I'd hate to think that my former DTW brothers are saying such asinine things. Grow a f---ing pair!

 

[20sx]

Well, I believe at least that the second comment was being very sarcastic towards the first. Sarcasm can be hard to read sometimes....but 99% of the group here at Pinnacle isn't scared of management....

We have our 1% (actually, less than), but who doesn't.

 

[PCL_128]

With all due respect, if that's the case, then why aren't we hearing of a work-to-rule campaign? Why am I not seeing -900s taxiing slow in ATL? If people aren't scared of management, then show it and put a hurt on them. You want a fair contract? Then fight for it.

 

[Smarta$$]

I don't think it was sarcasm. Unfortunately. Management goones seem to have alot of our pilots afraid for there jobs. We will get a contract in 2020. That is, if pt hasn't run this place into the ground by then, and he is sure trying HARD.

 

[say again]

Posting other peoples comments from a private company BB is spineless. Keep it in house.

While I'm not going to make extraordinary efforts to make sure we have on time arrivals and departures, I'm certanly not going to hinder things.

Are you CA 1 or CA 2?? :laugh:

 

[altimaklr]

Quit being an assho!e snitch and keep this stuff in our company forums. We don't need you to make our pilot group look any worse based on the comments of two people.

 

[rtmcfi]

Quit being an assho!e snitch and keep this stuff in our company forums. We don't need you to make our pilot group look any worse based on the comments of two people.

It is ok to be a weasil in private. Just don't let other people know we are a group comprised chiefly of pussies.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Grow a f---ing pair!

Try a set you might like having some!
PBR

 

[PCL_128]

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[Flyer1015]

With all due respect, if that's the case, then why aren't we hearing of a work-to-rule campaign? Why am I not seeing -900s taxiing slow in ATL? If people aren't scared of management, then show it and put a hurt on them. You want a fair contract? Then fight for it.

Who are you kidding? From what I've heard, the ATL boys are working like soldier ants to do everything humanly possible to leave on time, and arrive on time, especially with the A+14 time in mind. So far the flying has been extended until September.

We don't need you to make our pilot group look any worse based on the comments of two people.

It is ok to be a weasil in private. Just don't let other people know we are a group comprised chiefly of pussies.

You don't get it then. It's NOT two people 'only.' More and more Captains I fly with, are predominantly "pro" company and trying to do everything possible to "help" the company. It's all the small little things, like APU usage and things like that. And not to mention MANY taxi as if they're in the Indy500. All things that add up.

 

[Flyer1015]

double post, sorry

 

[Flyer1015]

Thankfully, the next two rsponses were at least good.

[In response to Captain 1 and Captain 2]

Captain 3:

"Wow...."

Captain 4:

"You can't be serious. The ONLY thing in the NW ASA that allows them to CX the contract is going below 75% completion factor for a significant period of time.

No way out for on time performance. Don't let pt make you scared for your job."

 

[PBRstreetgang]

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I am now proud, the anal wart of this profession doesn't like what I have to say.
PBR

 

[flyf15]

And not to mention MANY taxi as if they're in the Indy500.

Yeah seriously, whats the deal with that?? I've had so many Pinnacle planes blow by me at various airports doing what looks like 40+ knots. You guys need to slow down, not just for anything to do with contract/company/etc, but pure safety.

Best is when you see them pull INTO THE GATE going that fast....

 

[PCL_128]

Pinnacle CAs have always had a problem with taxiing way too fast. I had to represent one guy who slammed on his brakes and sent the FA flying 10 feet down the aisle because he was going so fast when he hit the brakes. I don't know where they get it from, but that part of the culture needs to change, contract negotiations or not.

 

[MesabaDriver]

Don't worry... in MEM they dont have a choice about taxiing. If they are behind me then Ill do the work for them. Our bankruptcy and contract neg. were nightmares here at XJ. Trust me if they want to shed you they can try to blame it on performance but in the end its for what ever reason they want. If you dont fit into their plan then who cares about ontime... Its just an excuse you guys buy. Those two clowns that posted earlier about being ontime and they will keep us....should be shot. ON TIME PERFORMANCE IS JUST ONE LEGAL WAY TO SAY... YOUR WORTHLESS TO US AS A REGIONAL CARRIER. GO CUT SOMEONE ELSE'S THROAT FOR FLYING.

Do you honestly think Phil T. wakes up every morning and phones Steeland and Richardson and say "hey great morning huh... what can we do to make our pilot groups the happiest in the country... what can we do to make their lives better..."

No they wake up and say how can I line my own pockets and the stock holders and not get thrown in jail or investigated by the SEC.

 

[Snakum]

the anal wart of this profession doesn't like what I have to say

I'd be proud, too. This no-shame PFT rookie only got ALPA religion after "HE GOT HIS, BOYEEE!" and now he can't let it go, even though he no longer even works for an ALPA carrier.

I'm also assuming he's single, because he spends so much time here spreading 'The ALPA Gospel' that no woman would put up with it, even if she could stomach such a lame backstabber.

 

[SplitBar]

With all due respect, if that's the case, then why aren't we hearing of a work-to-rule campaign? Why am I not seeing -900s taxiing slow in ATL? If people aren't scared of management, then show it and put a hurt on them. You want a fair contract? Then fight for it.

How come we aren't seeing all of that at Air Tran? Again, Pot calling Kettle black aren't we PFT_128. I'm sure you tell all your Capts how they should taxi and run the APU all day...TOOL !!!

 

[PCL_128]

How come we aren't seeing all of that at Air Tran?

I think you'd be surprised at how militant the attitude has gotten around here lately.

 

[Flyer1015]

At Pinnacle, there's MEM Captains, and then there's everybody else.

 

[Ifly4money]

Pinnacle CAs have always had a problem with taxiing way too fast.

Southwest interview prep?

 

[CoATP]

Pinnacle CAs have always had a problem with taxiing way too fast. /quote]
Taxiing out in Mem the other day we were S/E on J and one tried to get ground to let them pass around us on C. I'm sure if we'd had a rear view mirrow he would have been flashing high beams at us.

 

[DTWFO]

With all due respect, if that's the case, then why aren't we hearing of a work-to-rule campaign? Why am I not seeing -900s taxiing slow in ATL? If people aren't scared of management, then show it and put a hurt on them. You want a fair contract? Then fight for it.

I don't remember you saying that when you were an ALPA cheerleader at Pinnacle....hmmmmm.

 

[PCL_128]

I don't remember you saying that when you were an ALPA cheerleader at Pinnacle....hmmmmm.

As an ALPA rep, I couldn't really tell people to engage in things that could be interpreted as job actions. You know that. But I think you also know (assuming you've figured out who I am) that I was just about the most militant union rep at that company. I wasn't doing a damned thing to go "above and beyond" for them.

 

[DTWFO]

As an ALPA rep, I couldn't really tell people to engage in things that could be interpreted as job actions. You know that. But I think you also know (assuming you've figured out who I am) that I was just about the most militant union rep at that company. I wasn't doing a damned thing to go "above and beyond" for them.

That's the problem. ALPA is totally useless. They stand by and watch our jobs go down the toilet. ALPA needs to stand up and put up a fight. Who cares if it's illegal or not. What do we have to lose now?? NOTHING!! And don't tell me ALPA will cease to exist. The New York Transit Workers Union (TWU) stood up and told them where to shove it and looks like they are still around despite the fines and jail time. I will gladly pay a fine (assesment) to show this industry who is in charge. What good is a union if they never stand up to the pressures of management injustice. Might as well not have one.

 

[norskman2]

Who cares if it's illegal or not. What do we have to lose now?? NOTHING!!

APA was fined $45 million for the sickout against AMR in 1999. Frustration is understandable. But illegal job actions are not the answer.