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mar said:America is held out as a monolithic bastion of Capitalism. Not even a program like Social Security escapes the criticism of rapid capitalists.
Certainly nothing in America would even *approach* that of the welfare state.
Right?
But your first paragraph:
"...countries whose economies run almost solely on service jobs. These countries produce very little. Their existence depends upon capitalistic economies which produce a bounty of products at low price."--nearly describes the present American economy.
After all, what would most of our manufacturers do if it wasn't for Thailand, Hong Kong and Malaysia?
As far as my "success stories" go...well, I suppose we could argue about literacy rates, mortality rates, unemployment rates, homeless rates and rates of children born out of wedlock...
I don't know.
I would say these countries, to name a few, are examples of successful socialism. Mixed economies, for sure, but aren't they all...?
Even America?
Uhhh yeah, the argument against socialism is that its bad because the countries are small and needed help in WWII
TB--WWII was almost *60* years ago!!! What have they been doing for the past three score? Oh yeah, sucking off the big American tit. Once again you have single handedly insulted three nations at once.
America is held out as a monolithic bastion of Capitalism. Not even a program like Social Security escapes the criticism of rapid capitalists.
But your first paragraph:"...countries whose economies run almost solely on service jobs. These countries produce very little. Their existence depends upon capitalistic economies which produce a bounty of products at low price."--nearly describes the present American economy.
Dang you're good. You might be the first "anti-socialist" to admit America has a strong social tradition and isn't quite the nation of rugged individualists we think we are.
But listen, I disagree that the elderly don't want to pay for medicine or the aliens don't want to pay for healthcare. Who can afford that stuff without a decent insurance program?
Sweden, Norway and Denmark have their problems but they certainly aren't "collapsing and disintegrating" as another poster asserted.
I think it may be like a pilot trying to get to the majors. Some don't see any point at being in the industry unless you're flying the heavy metal on an ALPA contract. And there are others who are perfectly content flying small potatos to Podunk, Idaho.
mar said:But listen, I disagree that the elderly don't want to pay for medicine or the aliens don't want to pay for healthcare. Who can afford that stuff without a decent insurance program? And who offers decent insurance these days? We're a nation of downsized temps!
To be perfectly honest I wasn't too happy with my last response. I don't think I entirely answered your question but I was trying to make the point that if transitioning our work force from manufacturing to service is good enough in the US of A then why should we be so quick to condemn another nation for having a similiar economy?
After all, we're the ones who hold ourselves out as a leader of the free world--Sweden, Norway and Denmark have their problems but they certainly aren't "collapsing and disintegrating" as another poster asserted.
Still, your final point was that since they aren't leaders in technology or politics (as other more prevalent capitalistic nations are) that this somehow diminishes their role in the world scene....(???)....and are therefore less successful?
Am I understanding you?
Who's to say what makes a society successful?
I don't pretend to know exactly why private medical costs are so expensive, but one thing is for sure, medical regulations don't help.
Timebuilder said:
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Insurance is the problem, not the solution.
SDF2BUF2MCO said:This will sound cynical (again), but the guberment is probably foaming at the mouth to be the "solution" for healthcare "issues".