So Will ASA Reservists Continue To Be Thrown Under The Bus

[CaribPilot]

Rumor going around that ALPA has offered to give up all GDO's for Reserves.

Basically no hard days off at all for reserves with this next contract..IF the rumor is true.

 

[GeekMaster]

LOL That's a good one. I wonder who made that up. I called my Rep to check. NOT TRUE !!!

 

[probablecause]

I think the union sucks to begin with when it comes to reserves. I would come unfreakin glued if that was put out there. I don't care what was offered in return.

 

[CaribPilot]

I'm already becoming unglued with this place.

But its cool....give it some time...other places will start hiring soon.

 

[sweptback]

Read the emails sent out by the JNC. See the little chart with each section and whether or not it's in negotiations yet? See how the scheduling section doesn't even have a proposal prepared for the MEC yet?

Ok, I will admit that it's much more fun to make up crazy rumors to put on here. But I'm sure the union folk don't spend all the time sending out emails for no reason, there's usually some good stuff in there.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Rumor going around that ALPA has offered to give up all GDO's for Reserves.

Basically no hard days off at all for reserves with this next contract..IF the rumor is true.

That would be your senior pilot leadership, your coworkers, feel free to go up to a senior captain and kick him/her right in the junk. Fun and could get you a seniority number or jail time depending on the jurisdiction

 

[JumpersAway]

Absolutely untrue.............

 

[SpaceShipEarth]

There should be some kind of language that protects someone from being selected for RRR a 3rd time when he is in the same 2 day bucket as the next guy (who has 0 RRR assignments so far) just because the first guy has 2 hours less credit than the later.

The RRR bucket should go by Days Available => CMF +> # of RRR already served => Then by credit hours. (or something with this principle in mind)

Now your turn to tell me why this is a bad idea

 

[asayankee]

Scheduling has gone absolutely crazy with Ready Reserve this month.....

 

[bandit]

Absolutely untrue.............

No - the no GDO's rumor IS true! I know for a fact this has been discussed by our union.

 

[Medeco]

Maybe they are discussing making all days GDO's and you got it wrong?

You realize you get to vote on this contract, right?

So, chill.

I spent 4.5yrs on reserve of the 9 ive been here

 

[Dannone]

The only thing that will save pilots on reserve at any regional is movement. It is less painful if you only do it for a few months. It will only get worse and the pressure from mainline will get worse too!! Most of the pilot goup is not on reserve so those issues will get less attention. Unions always without fail, always eat their young. Just the nature of the beast. Never going to change. When voting for a contract people will vote what helps them the most at that moment. Given most won't be on reserve, they will vote accordingly.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

I thought giving the company whatever they want was the ASA mentality... That's what I gather from reading posts on this site. Lets overnight on planes, that could save money too....

Lucky for me I have friends who work there and they don't think the way essentially everyone on this site does..... Give give give. You don't walk in to buy a car and feel bad for the salesman. His job is to make you feel bad and make money! Your job is to keep it in your pocket. I don't think anything we xjt pilots expect from this contract is unreasonable. I think your expectations (as well as the expectations of your MEC from what I've heard second hand) are too low though.

 

[Medeco]

Texan,

Thats all good in eutopia, but we dont work in that environment.

When you go buy a car, you dont go back to them weekly for work and expect a paycheck every two weeks.

It boils down to the reality that we must fight for the most we can, but our company must be profitable at the same time. Its a very fine line.

 

[veneratio]

Texan,

Thats all good in eutopia, but we dont work in that environment.

When you go buy a car, you dont go back to them weekly for work and expect a paycheck every two weeks.

It boils down to the reality that we must fight for the most we can, but our company must be profitable at the same time. Its a very fine line.

Please don't listen to Management scare tactics, it's contract negotiations 101.

 

[centralpilot]

Off topic, but this thread title is misleading. I thought this would be allegations of mistreatment of ASA pilots who serve in the military. I've never heard the term "reservist" applied to a reserve pilot before.

 

[Flybywire44]

ASA has a Rec QOL subcommittee because many pilots at ASA anticipated stagnation scenarios. ie 200 reductions, more regional competition and ASA management's willingness to short-staff.

Contact your Reps and the Res QOL SubCom if this RES QOL is important to you—they do care.

 

[Medeco]

Please don't listen to Management scare tactics, it's contract negotiations 101.

Thats the best reaction you have?

Why dont you tell me where exactly Im wrong, and show me an example of a contract company like ours who is growing.

Standing by...

 

[pilotkppsg]

Thats the best reaction you have?

Why dont you tell me where exactly Im wrong, and show me an example of a contract company like ours who is growing.

Standing by...

Colgan, skywest. By all means tho, go easy on mgmt and sign their first offer, then come on here and complain about the new Porsche you saw a VP drive off in from the hq with his bonus money.

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

Thats the best reaction you have?

Why dont you tell me where exactly Im wrong, and show me an example of a contract company like ours who is growing.

Standing by...

What he's trying to say is EVERY contract company is under the threat of bad future prospects... while they're in negotiations. Even at the Majors, managements tell the pilot groups that the company CAN'T be profitable if we give you this and that in your contract.

The problem is so many of the things we want in the contract really don't cost them any money, it just forces them not to abuse the living crap out of us while we're on reserve. Ready reserve is a perfect example... Why can't we have language that prohibits scheduling from having any more than 2 crews sitting at the airport at any one time? That doesn't cost them a penny but does prevent schedulers from putting 5 sets of crews there just because they can (and yes, I've seen them do that before).

Another example, do away with the sign in requirement we have at ASA. Doesn't cost the company a penny, but lets commuters go straight from their arriving gate to their first working flight when they're tight on time.

I could go on and on but you should get the point by now.

One last thing, if the language isn't tighter than what we have had, anything we do get is worthless. If I see one example of "at the company's discretion" in the new contract, it will be an easy NO vote for me.

Sorry, rant over...