So what's next at ASA?

[Crash Pad]

The game is over people. Let me get this right. SKYW is going to keep 17, 70 seaters at ASA. That doesn't make any sense.

Personally if Jerry offered second year pay... with a staple to anyone who wants to make the jump now... I would take it. Finding pilots isn't there problem, however.

 

["GO AROUND"]

There were 5 ATR upgrades last award. There was just a second award for more vacancies in LAX.

Doom and Gloom, Doom and Gloom. Even for me it's getting old. I so need a change from this rat race. The quicker the better.

 

[Sinca3]

However, if you really look at it, they have been making a lot more on their equipment than others at other airlines for the past four years.

My pay rate (ASA) at other carriers that operate a 50 seat aircraft:
Eagle...................70
Exjet....................69
Air Wisconsin.........68
Chautuaqua...........68
Skywest...............67
Comair.................66 (this is the concessionary rate that has NOT started)
Trans States.........66
ASA.....................65
Mesa...................62

 

[79%N1]

Sorry, I was meaning 70 seat rates.

 

[Crash Pad]

There were 5 ATR upgrades last award. There was just a second award for more vacancies in LAX.

Doom and Gloom, Doom and Gloom. Even for me it's getting old. I so need a change from this rat race. The quicker the better.

Go Around I expect a much better showing from you. Are you coming to realise you, I, and the rest of the pilots at ASA will be on the street or in a 50.

 

[outtahere]

They could pay us what we want and still make profit. They are just being greedy. The roadshow must have gotten to you.

You must have misread my post, you and I are saying the samething. The bastards need to pay up, and I know they can afford it.

 

[Sinca3]

Here they are...

Sorry, I was meaning 70 seat rates.

70 rates at years 10 and 15. Included 78 rates since ALPA proposed one rate for 70-78 and Republic has those rates already!
...........................70yr10/15........78yr10/15
Horizon...................95/110
Chautauqua..............79/87.............92/101
ASA.........................81/94.............81/94 (ALPA proposed)
Eagle........................80/92
PSA..........................75/86
Comair......................74/87 (Concessionary HAS NOT taken effect)
Skywest....................74/86.............74/86
GoJet........................74/84
Mesa........................72/83

 

["GO AROUND"]

Go Around I expect a much better showing from you. Are you coming to realise you, I, and the rest of the pilots at ASA will be on the street or in a 50.

I'll tell ya what I am coming to realize. The pilot contract is not going to be the reason for ASA folding like an ironing board. Bitching and complaining on here is doing even less good for getting a contract done. If the company wants it done then they will get with the mediator to sit down again and address ALL the open issues left in the contract. Them saying they don't want to address an issue, the contract will have to be done without it, or a catch attached is not gonna get it done.

You or I have squat to do with getting this done and I am looking out for number one by getting out. I wish I had faith in our managment or the airline industry to make me want to stick with it. I'm done, you all can have it. Overall, I have had a great time at ASA over the last 7 years. When I'm able to get out I am gone. I'll let ya know in a few weeks.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

I'll tell ya what I am coming to realize. The pilot contract is not going to be the reason for ASA folding like an ironing board.

Ironing boards don't fold. They retract.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Ironing boards don't fold. They retract.

What you talkin bout Willis?
Retract? Into what? Like gear? Mine folds.