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May god save the FO who seriously chooses to wake me up unless we're on fire. If he just wants to dick with me, thats great, and we can laugh. But if you actually think dozing in cruise is a problem....go fly some trans Atlantic flight blocked to 7:59 and tell me how it goes when the sun comes up :)
 
Sure, everybody know's we're not getting paid to sleep up there..yadda yadda yadda, but realistically, during cruise it's no big deal if one guy sleeps IMHO. The only time I'm not for it is if there is a jumpseater in the cockpit.

I fly freight at night in the 727, and usually there are at least 2 of us hanging in the straps at a time.

Alot of the guys will test the clacker..that will get somebody's attention in a hurry!!:nuts:
 
satpak77 said:
you serious? ... he could be shutting his eyes and mentally reviewing for his upcoming checkride

Now I do this all the time. Never too much mental preperation. However if I am having a quick power nap and I wake up I better not find the FO asleep though :D
 
Any one flying part 121 has fallen asleep at least once. That is why there are two of us. Get over it, it happens for a few minutes at least. Lets not hope it happens to both of us.
 
Note the time when his eyes close, and again when they open. This is called PIC time. In the remarks, write "CA. incapasitated".
It's fine. I do not sleep in the seat. But if the CA. is going to all I ask is for him to say "Keep an eye on things". I get pissed when I look over there and his head is kicked back and the grool is hanging and he doesn't say a word.
 
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PHXFLYR said:
Looks like someone needs to develop a sense of humor and not take herself so seriously....loosin' up sweetpea ...you'll live longer

Thanks for the advice sugarplum
 
Sounds like the FAA duty time at work again.

Where else can you work 14 to 16 hours in a challenging environment with peoples lives at stake.

Like ASA scheduling says "but it is leagal". Walk a mile in our shoes idiots.

Real smart.
 
5ontheglide said:
Sounds like some good bate, but it's a true story.

I'm the PNF on a flight the other day and the Captain falls asleep for about 5-10 minutes in cruise - throw me some suggestions on how you guys would have handled it! Make it as funny or serious as you want. I played the nice guy (forgiving) FO.
If your flying skills are kind of shaky, I'd have woken up the captain.
 
FN FAL said:
If your flying skills are kind of shaky, I'd have woken up the captain.
True. But the captain must trust him a little if he's willing to take a cat nap.
 
I knew it was time to upgrade in the 1900 when I could read the paper, fly the plane, and work the radios while my CAPT. slept of his/her hang over.
 
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5ontheglide said:
Sounds like some good bate, but it's a true story.

I'm the PNF on a flight the other day and the Captain falls asleep for about 5-10 minutes in cruise - throw me some suggestions on how you guys would have handled it! Make it as funny or serious as you want. I played the nice guy (forgiving) FO.

do what I did when my First officer (who was working another job to make ends meet) fell asleep LET HIM SLEEP. I woke him for final when I needed him. Are you a fellow pilot or a anal retentive check airmen wanabee
 
Bluto said:
Um, an emergency room?

Medical Errors - A Leading Cause of Death
The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284, No 4, July 26th 2000 article written by Dr Barbara Starfield, MD, MPH, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, shows that medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the United States.

The report apparently shows there are 2,000 deaths/year from unnecessary surgery; 7000 deaths/year from medication errors in hospitals; 20,000 deaths/year from other errors in hospitals; 80,000 deaths/year from infections in hospitals; 106,000 deaths/year from non-error, adverse effects of medications - these total up to 225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes which ranks these deaths as the # 3 killer. Iatrogenic is a term used when a patient dies as a direct result of treatments by a physician, whether it is from misdiagnosis of the ailment or from adverse drug reactions used to treat the illness. (drug reactions are the most common cause).


Scary. We don't kill that many people per year yet :)
 
capt. megadeth said:
Of course...coming from a studly stallion like you.....of course I will act on it.
:rolleyes:


Flunk out of CRM class again "Captain"?:rolleyes:



PHXFLYR:cool:
 
In the ERJ you can press and hold the RA test button (the one inside the minimums knob) and as it goes through its test it will announce "TO LOW TERRAIN!!!" That normally works like a charm.

But seriously if you are in cruise flight and he would be reading a magazine anyway :) , Let him sleep!!!!!

Normally at the top of decent just let the altitude alterter go off and the he will wake up!

No need to be an A$$ about it, there are times when we all can be well served by a little catnap
 

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