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and for CVR purposes have a agreed upon code for "I am gonna take a nap"

"Hey Joe, looks like a good night to be flying"

"sure does"
 
The FAA won't say it officially, but if you need to get some shut eye, just take it, but tell the other guy first. Tis isn't a huge deal, just get him up at TOD or whatever.
 
NASA did a study on this stuff a few years ago. The conclusion? It's much safer to take a little nap in cruise while the other guy watches the ship than it is for both to stay awake while tired.

Let the guy take a nap. Don't be a douche.
 
PCL_128 said:
NASA did a study on this stuff a few years ago. The conclusion? It's much safer to take a little nap in cruise while the other guy watches the ship than it is for both to stay awake while tired.

Let the guy take a nap. Don't be a douche.

I think instead the copilot should be one of the moron FO's who posted here about "activating the fire warning" and turning his headset off

now THATS professional
 
Back when I was a Brasilia FO I flew with a Capt who routinely slept most of the flight. He was actually kind of well know for it among the FOs.

It only bothered me because he had a habit of leaving his hot mic on and snoring in my ear.

One day, after actually reaching over and turning it off, I could STILL hear him snoring, and fearing so too could the passengers, I decided this time I had to wake him up.

I centered up the heading bug and made sure we were right on the airway, then dialed both of our HSIs to random courses, and switched NAV freq's on both sides. I slumped back in my seat like I was sleeping and nudged him just enough to wake him up.

Watching his face go from confusion to horror was pretty much the funniest thing I'd seen in an airplane to that point.
 
May god save the FO who seriously chooses to wake me up unless we're on fire. If he just wants to dick with me, thats great, and we can laugh. But if you actually think dozing in cruise is a problem....go fly some trans Atlantic flight blocked to 7:59 and tell me how it goes when the sun comes up :)
 
Sure, everybody know's we're not getting paid to sleep up there..yadda yadda yadda, but realistically, during cruise it's no big deal if one guy sleeps IMHO. The only time I'm not for it is if there is a jumpseater in the cockpit.

I fly freight at night in the 727, and usually there are at least 2 of us hanging in the straps at a time.

Alot of the guys will test the clacker..that will get somebody's attention in a hurry!!:nuts:
 
satpak77 said:
you serious? ... he could be shutting his eyes and mentally reviewing for his upcoming checkride

Now I do this all the time. Never too much mental preperation. However if I am having a quick power nap and I wake up I better not find the FO asleep though :D
 
Any one flying part 121 has fallen asleep at least once. That is why there are two of us. Get over it, it happens for a few minutes at least. Lets not hope it happens to both of us.
 
Note the time when his eyes close, and again when they open. This is called PIC time. In the remarks, write "CA. incapasitated".
It's fine. I do not sleep in the seat. But if the CA. is going to all I ask is for him to say "Keep an eye on things". I get pissed when I look over there and his head is kicked back and the grool is hanging and he doesn't say a word.
 
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PHXFLYR said:
Looks like someone needs to develop a sense of humor and not take herself so seriously....loosin' up sweetpea ...you'll live longer

Thanks for the advice sugarplum
 
Sounds like the FAA duty time at work again.

Where else can you work 14 to 16 hours in a challenging environment with peoples lives at stake.

Like ASA scheduling says "but it is leagal". Walk a mile in our shoes idiots.

Real smart.
 

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