Skywest

[MONKEY]

I'm just an outsider

and maybe I should stay that way on this issue, but I am a little confused.

Many of the SKW pilots have said that there is no other regional they would rather work for. That means that SKW has a better quality of life for them personally. If SKW is their top choice, how is a union going to benifit them? And don't give me that crap about no contract. They have there policy manual that SKW abides by. Sure it can be changed easier than a contract, but take a look around, all the contracts are being changed for the worse do to the state of the industry. This industry just sucks right now. It may or may not get better. I can tell you one thing, ALPA is as big a part of the problem as they are the solution. We are now living in a Walmart world either compete or die.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

As for the above posts for Wilde737 and ILS to MINS no letter in 48 hours is probably not good news but you can interview 2 times in 6 mo. and usually the second is successful!

Just for clarification when I said "sometimes no news is good news" I did not mean anything negative. Sometimes the rejection notices get sent out before the offers. The fact that some time has elapsed may be a good thing. This observation applies to other airlines as well. Nothing specific to SKYW intended or implied.

 

[Smoothflyin]

Ahh Yeah...

All you rich commuter pilots livin' the high life!

 

[Mookie]

What Dave B. said. I got the congrats letter exactly two weeks after my interview. if you are coming from another carrier it can take a while for the paper work to process through the system.

Smoove...gee thanks, I am living the high life. good schedules, great maintenance, fun people to fly with, upgrade in less than two years, and the highest turbo prop wage in the industry...it is the good life.

Mookie

 

[Splert]

Hourly rates don't determine how much you get paid unless you punch a time clock. Work Rules and Trip Rigs determine how much you get paid and SkyWest is years and years and years behind in work rules.

Good Grief...

 

[Rogue5]

Full pay for:

Deadheads
Repositions
Wx Cancellation
Mx Cancellation

Paid best of historic or actual block

Time and a half for trips picked up in open time (within 10 days of first leg).

Paid 3:45 to sit reserve on days off and 1.5 times block if called when short-staffed (I have done this 7 times this month already, and not gotten called once).

Yeah a trip rig would be great to be paid for the occasional long sit between legs but its not exactly like we're getting screwed here.

Look at the industry around you, yes I will be the first to say the airlines are a rough world, but I wouldn't be anywhere else. I have thought about bailing on the airline gig entirely and finding another flying job (medivac, BLM/DOI pilot, etc.), but that's another topic altogether.

I would be cautious in saying whether I would advise another on starting out on an airline career, but if you are in it right now, I think you can do much, much worse...

 

[Splert]

Full pay for:

Deadheads
Repositions

That's all stuff after an end to a 25 years career I could buy a cup coffee with.

Yeah a trip rig would be great to be paid for the occasional long sit between legs but its not exactly like we're getting screwed here.

With this statement you have just offically declared to the WWW that you have no idea what the difference is between a Trip Rig and a Duty Rig

The majority of the trips we fly are 4-day trips and the majority of the 4-day trips would be benefit from a trip rig. A trip rig would take care of WX and MX cancellations.

A trip rig is not for long sits on duty its for the long sit on overnight in the middle of your trip. The long sit while on duty is taken care of buy the 1 for 2 duty time rig. Most of our 4 day trips have 1 or 2 days of only getting paid our minimum guarantee. That why the credits of these trips are so low.

83 Hours away from bases for 18 hours of credit is what you get with out a Trip rig.

Good Grief

 

[Rogue5]

... and you have shown everyone how much of a d!ck you are.


Nevermind, I guess people just see things from their own point of view. I know we have a lot of things to work on here, and I support some certified form of representation, but I simply think we have it fairly good here. Apparently you disagree.

'nuff said...

 

[Splert]

... and you have shown everyone how much of a d!ck you are.

Sorry dude.

But you made some bold statements without even knowing the basic facts of what you were talking about. When you do that in this type of media you are probably going to get slapped a 'lil bit.

Could things be worse?...Sure. But since when is that the standard?

Go run home now, the street lights are on.

Good Grief.

 

[propjockey]

Location of Duty Rig text???

A few days ago on the way to JAC we were scouring the (SkyWest) Policy Manual looking for the exact wording of the 1 for 2 duty rig we presently have, but we couldn't find it. Can any of you give me chapter and verse so I can read that thing for myself?Thanks.

 

[Splert]

http://www.airlinepilotcontracts.com/Contracts/Skywest2003.pdf

SP 305 Paragraph 29

 

[wilde737]

It's Official

Well It's now official, I just got my rejection letter today. Hey General, Do You have the phone number for Home Depot? I might want to try that again. Now the real question is whether or not I want to stay on the ramp and throw bags for another six months. Maybe then I could get another shot at it. Hard to say. Later, Wilde737.

 

[Splert]

Sorry to learn about the letter.

Where do you throw bags? What city? We have had a number of rampers that have made the transition to flight operations.

Keep you head up because if this is what you want to do then this is what you have to do.

Out!

 

[Mt.Hood Hobbit]

FedEx Good U.S. Mail BAD

I got the congrats letter 4 days after the interview; however, had 1 friend who waited 3 weeks. The wait is brutal- just suck it up and good luck.

 

[strega7]

talk to the PIC involved in the RAP incident and ask him what he thinks of ASAP program

Dude, the checkairman in the left seat let the new F.O. basically crash the airplane onto the ruway in RAP after starting the approach when it was below mins. He's lucky. The ASAP program let him stay a pilot even though the FAA was out for blood and wanted all his certificates. Trust me.


Fly Safe.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

Now is the FO still with SKW?

 

[Redeyes]

Dude, the checkairman in the left seat let the new F.O. basically crash the airplane onto the ruway in RAP after starting the approach when it was below mins. He's lucky. The ASAP program let him stay a pilot even though the FAA was out for blood and wanted all his certificates. Trust me.


Fly Safe.

Not true, get your facts straight before you write something like this on a public message board.

The way I justify my career at SkyWest is like this. I work for the best company in a very crappy industry. They don't have to improve conditions, in fact they can't or they will be priced out of the market. THE WHOLE INDUSTRY HAS TO IMPROVE, which is not gonna happen. So the moral is don't let your kids grow up to be regional airline pilots.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

Not true, get your facts straight before you write something like this on a public message board.

The way I justify my career at SkyWest is like this. I work for the best company in a very crappy industry. They don't have to improve conditions, in fact they can't or they will be priced out of the market. THE WHOLE INDUSTRY HAS TO IMPROVE, which is not gonna happen. So the moral, don't let your kids grow up to be regional airline pilots.

Hey I like that definition.......

 

[Heavy Set]

Well It's now official, I just got my rejection letter today. Hey General, Do You have the phone number for Home Depot? I might want to try that again. Now the real question is whether or not I want to stay on the ramp and throw bags for another six months. Maybe then I could get another shot at it. Hard to say. Later, Wilde737.

Try for Eagle - it's hiring big time. Don't worry about it, you can reapply if you are so interested in a few months time. Good luck.

 

[General Lee]

Wilde737,


As Heavy Set just said, try Eagle. They seem to be hiring a lot and you can always try Skywest again. You will do fine.....


Bye Bye--General Lee