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Bluto

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Just a few days remaining. If you are on the SkyWest pilot seniority list, please vote.

If you're not sure how you should vote, please do some research and make a decision. Regardless of your position, a high turn-out vote shows our management we are interested in our company and our future.

Please Vote!
 
The vote closes at 1700 pacific Daylight Time on Tuesday, October 4. The results should be available very shortly thereafter.

Some have argued that they would rather not vote at all to show management that they are dissatisfied with this offer. I would beg these individuals to reconsider as there is no way to tell the difference between someone abstaining on principle, and someone who simply forgets to vote, or just doesn't care.

If you have strong feelings, please make your voice heard, and use the comments section to let your representative body know how you feel about this proposal, good or bad. We have to take advantage of the few opportunities we have to make our voices heard.

If you're not SkyWest but know someone who is, please ask them if they've voted, and/or encourage them to do so. A strong vote turn-out will send a strong message.
 
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Yes it is important to get involved and vote!!! Get informed on the issues and vote. Remember if you do not vote/get involved then you have absolutely no right to complain about anything!! It only takes about 2min to register and vote. Plenty of time left so go for it!
 
If by "they" you mean SkyWest management, then the answer is yes. If you mean the SkyWest pilots, the answer seems to be pretty clearly no. We should know by the end of tomorrow (the 4th).
 
KingAirer said:
Are they really wanting to fly 90seaters for 50 seat rates?
Our current agreement technically has a 50-99 seat aircraft rate which is why we currently fly the 700 for what used to be our 50-seat jet rates. This agreement would limit the aircraft we can fly for our current jet rates to CL-65 type aircraft (up to 90-seats, currently). Technically speaking, this aspect is an improvement over our current agreement.

However, many SkyWest pilots feel that we have sacrificed by flying the 70's at lower than industry-standard wages for two years already. If they expect to continue with a single rate for our aircraft, regardless of size, most pilots expect a substantial increase in the rates, not 1.2% as was offered.

Additionally, our current agreement expired over 6 months ago. The current agreement offer has no amendable or expiration date and therefore, no motivation for our management to ever renew it.

Unfortunately, while we have a pay "negotiating" committee, the bottom line is this: we have zero leverage and as such have zero ability to negotiate. Any agreement we get will be a result of the company's good graces, not our ability to negotiate.
 
Bluto said:
Our current agreement technically has a 50-99 seat aircraft rate which is why we currently fly the 700 for what used to be our 50-seat jet rates. This agreement would limit the aircraft we can fly for our current jet rates to CL-65 type aircraft (up to 90-seats, currently). Technically speaking, this aspect is an improvement over our current agreement.

However, many SkyWest pilots feel that we have sacrificed by flying the 70's at lower than industry-standard wages for two years already. If they expect to continue with a single rate for our aircraft, regardless of size, most pilots expect a substantial increase in the rates, not 1.2% as was offered.

Additionally, our current agreement expired over 6 months ago. The current agreement offer has no amendable or expiration date and therefore, no motivation for our management to ever renew it.

Unfortunately, while we have a pay "negotiating" committee, the bottom line is this: we have zero leverage and as such have zero ability to negotiate. Any agreement we get will be a result of the company's good graces, not our ability to negotiate.

As an outsider (whose only interest is your share value) this comment has me confused (not a difficult task I'll admit).

What is the purpose of a vote if you have no resultant "leverage"? Is this just an informational mechanism to get an offical record of where your employee group stands on the issue?

Thanks.
 
Traderd said:
What is the purpose of a vote if you have no resultant "leverage"? Is this just an informational mechanism to get an offical record of where your employee group stands on the issue?
Good question and an excellent point. Basically, you are right. For whatever reason, our management has agreed to give us a vote when they change major things, such as pay rates. Other stuff, they change arbitrarily at their whim by issuing a memo. The leverage issue comes down to the difference between a legally recognized bargaining agent, and a company created and administered representative group. We have been told that we may not receive anything better if we vote no on our current pay agreement (isn't everyone told that when negotiating pay?). However, if we did vote no overwhelmingly, it might convince our management that we, as a pilot group, consider their offer unreasonable and might convince them to offer us more. Or it might convince them that we, as a pilot group, are a bunch of spoiled, whiney, children. How they take it is really up to them. The leverage issue comes down to the difference between a union and non-union carrier. We are non-union. We don't have the legal right to take any organized job action if it were to come to that point. Our management is keenly aware of this fact and acts accordingly.
 
Bluto said:
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Additionally, our current agreement expired over 6 months ago. The current agreement offer has no amendable or expiration date and therefore, no motivation for our management to ever renew it.

Unfortunately, while we have a pay "negotiating" committee, the bottom line is this: we have zero leverage and as such have zero ability to negotiate. Any agreement we get will be a result of the company's good graces, not our ability to negotiate.

You know what would fix that, a binding arbitration clause in your agreement.
 

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