Skywest to stop training???

[flyingfool]

I just heard that Skywest will stop all training in Nov. Does anyone know why? Some people had said it is because of Midwest being bought, or the union drive, and so one. We are definitely not caught up. Anyone?

 

[goahead]

B/C ASA is getting a contract this week and will take all our planes back
)))))))))))))
Couldn't resist

 

[BoilerUP]

Source?

 

[DwayneWorthless]

Alpa has weathered the storm. We have arrived and saved those poor bastard ASA pilots. Rise up and pay your dues.

 

[flyingfool]

Source?

A Chief Pilot

 

[Tarzan]

Sounds like a scare tactic with the upcoming ALPA vote. And you can bet as the vote nears, there will probably be some of the SW planes head over to ASA.

The question is, will you guys buy into the BS?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Yep - here come the threats.

Even more reason to vote in ALPA. When ASA gets their contract done they will have job protections and reasons to grow ASA. SkyWest will not have anything and does not even have a seat at the negotiating table.

Time to join the club, or be excluded.

 

[FishandFly]

I heard we are re-opening our SLC base. Any truth to that?

 

[Steveair]

Training is scheduled to continue to the end of the year.

 

[Palerider957]

Yep - here come the threats.

Even more reason to vote in ALPA. When ASA gets their contract done they will have job protections and reasons to grow ASA. SkyWest will not have anything and does not even have a seat at the negotiating table.

Time to join the club, or be excluded.

Agreed....you are either "at the table, or on the menu."

 

[SkyNation]

last captain upgrade class for the RJ is the Oct. 8th class. rest of the classes for the year will be all FOs, because we're short on them. planning for 2008 will be finalized soon, and you can expect upgrades to run fast and furious to catch up with all the folks leaving for SWA, CAL, etc.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Sure - because it is so much more efficient to train all FO's (seat swapping, getting IP's for seat fillers) then training 100% upgrades.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Yep - here come the threats.

Even more reason to vote in ALPA. When ASA gets their contract done they will have job protections and reasons to grow ASA. SkyWest will not have anything and does not even have a seat at the negotiating table.

Time to join the club, or be excluded.

You can join the club and still be excluded.......

 

[SkyNation]

Sure - because it is so much more efficient to train all FO's (seat swapping, getting IP's for seat fillers) then training 100% upgrades.

FOs train with other FOs, no seat filling required.

 

[FishandFly]

You can join the club and still be excluded.......

That may be true, but not the other way around.

You can not, not join the club and still be included.

 

[~~~^~~~]

FOs train with other FOs, no seat filling required.

How many right seats does an RJ have?

Or, are you staffing relief crews for ETOPS?

 

[Bluto]

That may be true, but not the other way around.

You can not, not join the club and still be included.

I mean you can get a good look at a Butcher's a$$ by sticking your head up there...

It's got to be your bull.

 

[Bluto]

How many right seats does an RJ have?

Or, are you staffing relief crews for ETOPS?

During training we frequently have FO/FO pairs where the NFP sits in the left seat. It's really not that complicated or uncommon. Does this idea really shatter your universe? Or are you just stirring the pot?

 

[sweptback]

During training we frequently have FO/FO pairs where the NFP sits in the left seat. It's really not that complicated or uncommon. Does this idea really shatter your universe? Or are you just stirring the pot?

ASA does FO/FO pairs for newhires too. When I was a newhire I was paired with another FO because they ran out of upgrades to pair me with.

In fact, now all newhires are paired with FOs in initial training due to the short captain upgrade course.

 

[Positive Rate]

I just heard that Skywest will stop all training in Nov. Does anyone know why? Some people had said it is because of Midwest being bought, or the union drive, and so one. We are definitely not caught up. Anyone?

We do not have anymore planes coming our way.......what i heard is the upgrades are slowing or almost done for the year...then after the new year.....attrition upgrades will come........unless of course....the Midwest option comes our way.........just rumors....no reliable source.....

 

[amcnd]

The End of the year is always slow in training. We have so may crews time out we cant send any to training. SkyWest is to big to stop training, expect the upgrades to pick back up in Jan. NOV and DEC is FO's only we are 80 newhires short!!

 

[VeeOne]

This will be dressed up and put on the shelf by SkyWest management to illustrate a slow down in upgrades in an effort to scare people away from ALPA. This is something I hope the majority of SkyWest pilots can see through............

 

[JoeMerchant]

That may be true, but not the other way around.

You can not, not join the club and still be included.

So you admit that those of us in the "club" can still be excluded..... Does that not say that there may just be something wrong with the "club"?

Some of those not in the "club" are doing fine..... why should they join the "club"? Maybe we should fix the "club" and include everyone..... then more will want to join.....

 

[i fly boxes]

Yep - here come the threats.

Even more reason to vote in ALPA. When ASA gets their contract done they will have job protections and reasons to grow ASA. SkyWest will not have anything and does not even have a seat at the negotiating table.

Time to join the club, or be excluded.

ASA is NEVER GOING TO GET A CONTRACT, EITHER IS PINNACLE, or TSA

 

[sweptback]

ASA is NEVER GOING TO GET A CONTRACT, EITHER IS PINNACLE, or TSA

Not with this NMB they're not. All of you who voted for Dubya can't complain one bit, though.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Not with this NMB they're not. All of you who voted for Dubya can't complain one bit, though.

Sweptback,

In 1998, I sat in the NMB offices and listened to the Democratic NMB Chairwoman of the Clinton Democratic NMB tell us we wouldn't be released based on what we were asking for. Quit blaiming this on Bush.... I'm sorry you were misled about what is achievable under the RLA, but that isn't the fault of the evil Republicans.... That is a failure of the MEC to manage expectations.....

In 1998, the only reason we got what we did was because of the "work to rule" campaign.....

 

[kj6991]

This will be dressed up and put on the shelf by SkyWest management to illustrate a slow down in upgrades in an effort to scare people away from ALPA. This is something I hope the majority of SkyWest pilots can see through............

Although I am an alpa supporter for skywest, I have to disagree with this statement. We generally slow training down toward the end of the year. Also, we do have an abundance of captians and are short on FO's. Just look at MKE. Plus, no more airplanes this year so far and most airlines will slow hiring down towards the end of year also.(I heard Southwest was shutting down till next year). Expect upgrades to pick back up next year.

 

[pipers]

How many right seats does an RJ have?

Or, are you staffing relief crews for ETOPS?

One.

Its just that our CA at SkyWest have been a lot more successful at getting on with the likes of FedEx, SouthWest, etc. But you already knew that.

 

[Russ]

"staffing relief crews for ETOPS?"

Was told the -900 can be easily made ETOPS compliant. Just have to borrow the jaws of life and wedge JA's wallet open to pay for the EO.
Don't know if it's true or not. Hope it's not.

 

[difete]

Havent they always slowed down hiring during the winter months? I have seen this trend often during the last two years.